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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: JBTFD who wrote (505304)12/7/2003 11:41:23 AM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
In what way? Medicare? That bill sounds more like a special interests feast than any real support for the working man.

The working man is a special interest himself. You will probably see evil in anything he does.

How unapologetically self righteous.

No. It is just a fact that working people work jobs - jobs created by business owners.

You are ignoring all self employed people.

I am not ignoring them. I am simply speaking in terms of trends. Self-employed people create jobs for themselves and are deserving of every freedom from the tax and regulatory burdens Bush aims to give them.

And you are ignoring the fact that if you give tax relief to people who will spend it, that will create demand, which will in turn create the need for more jobs.

Bush has done this from both ends of the spectrum. Didn't you get the check in the mail? Is dividend income double-taxed?

If you give tax relief to rich people who already have enough money to buy whatever they would need, it doesn't increase spending.

No one can keep money without helping someone else. Give tax relief to people who have means and even should those people stash the cash away they help the institutions who handle the cash, which gives job security to individuals in these institutions, including building managers, office cleaners and the mailroom crew.

The idea that they will go out and create some jobs just because they received a tax cut is for the just plain stupid.

Eventually, as the wealthy perceive themselves in possession of protected surpluses, they will plow some of those surpluses into investments, creating jobs and greater job security. It takes time, but it works and it is over the long haul more effective than simply writing a bunch of handouts to people already saddled with crushing debt.

They will create jobs only when there is profit in it for them, and if there is no money in it for them no jobs will be created.

This is naive. No one in his right mind, whatever his class, is going to create a job when there is no profit in it for them. This is a fact of life, pal. You can't get something for nothing.

Unbridled corporate capitalism will also seek out jobs overseas. That does nothing for the working man here.

It either makes him more competitive where he is, or it forces him into areas where he can better compete. I have no obligation to give jobs to Americans. If I can buy a team of folks in the Ukraine to do for pennies what Americans would do for hundred of dollars, there is NO REASON AT ALL why I should ignore the Ukrainians to instead buy American. I would have perceived that reason had Americans been more closely knit around similar ideology. But we are not. I therefore sense no more kinship with them as I do with the folks in the Ukraine. It is folly to think I must overspend simply because you want a job.

Go ahead. Make me a list of all the great things Bush has done for the working man.

Didn't you get the check?

He is "the great divider", to anyone who is paying attention.

I think many got the check. I think so.
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