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To: American Spirit who wrote (7136)	12/7/2003 8:05:08 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) of 10965

Un-American Spirit: George Bush's Disinformation Agent on SI? Re: Deanies are trying to form their own alternate Dem party. That's a silly thing to suggest. Without anything whatsoever to back up your bluster, why should we believe a word you say? ** Here's another reason why "we can't believe a word you say"... Weeks ago, you told the thread that 37% of the votes for the Presidential nominee at the Democratic National Convention were Super-delagates and that they would oppose any Dean effort to become the candidate. I was stunned by that 37% figure, so I did some research. Here's the calculation I found: SUPERDELEGATES: The breakdown of the delegate votes is as follows: · 3062 Base delegate votes (2279 district delegate votes and 783 at-large delegate votes) · 458 Pledged PLEOs (meaning a total of 3520 delegate votes to be determined by either a primary or a caucus/convention system in each state or other jurisdiction) · 797 Unpledged delegate votes (715 Unpledged PLEOs and 82 Unpledged "add-on"s) · TOTAL: 4317 delegate votes. · Needed to win Presidential Nomination: 2,159 (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/ ) 458 + 797/4338 = 29% of delegates are so-called "Super-delegates". Terminology: · PLEOs = Party Leaders and Elected Officials. · PLEOs + add-ons = Superdelegates. · District + at-large delegates = Base delegates. · Base delegates + Pledged PLEOs are the only delegates chosen through a Democratic presidential Primary or Caucus/Convention procedure and, thus, allocated to presidential contenders. · All Unpledged delegates (Unpledged PLEOs + add-ons) are automatically uncommitted and are held aside rather than allocated to presidential contenders through a Primary or Caucus/Convention. Source: thegreenpapers.com ********* So, Mr. Spirit, who are we going to believe? You, or our own eyes? "YOU CAN'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS"

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