Re: For the Americans, Canadians, Australians, or Turks to want a nation and self-determination, that's their right.
For the Jews to want a nation and self-determination, that's a "Whackenstaat".
Have I got the definition straight?
Nope... You've got it all wrong: For the Americans, Canadians, Australians, or Turks to want a nation and self-determination, that was their MIGHT.
I've already addressed that issue in the following posts:
Message 17772283
Message 17335863
As I said the "scale factor" precludes Israel from ever resembling the US case... Besides, while Zionists keep referring conveniently to the American case study to justify Israel, they coyly overlook the French-Algerian precedent... how come? Of course, the French case really is a worst-case scenario for rabid Zionists: the French Pieds-Noirs, just like the Americans, conquered and settled a wilderness inhabited by primitive tribes... only to pack up and go back home 130 years later.
Then again, the balance of power between American settlers and Indians is incommensurate with today's one between Arabs and Israelis... You wanna play hardball with them, but what are you gonna do when Pakistan will have nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean? Oh, I see: you'll have India nuke Pakistan, eh? But India has no interest in unleashing a war with Pakistan that's gonna ultimately turn into a civil war (India is the largest Muslim country after Indonesia, mind you)
Bottom line, might is right... even for the Jews. Did you ever ask yourself why colonialism has been successful but in the most primitive areas? Australia and the Aborigines... the Americas and their native tribes who wouldn't use the wheel... As for Africa, apart from Zimbabwe's white farmers, the trappings of old-style colonialism are no more. Asia? the last European outposts, Hong Kong and Macao, have been graciously ceded to China in the late 1990s.... Okay, you Zionists want a full-fledged nation where Jews enjoy precedence over non-Jews... That's fine with me but remember... you were offered Patagonia! If it was just a matter of having your own Jewish turf, why didn't you go for uninhabited Patagonia?!? Why did you mess with the Arabs in that overcrowded piece of real estate, the Mideast?
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