"...That day is not here. And therefore an isolated non-self expressing cell is not a complete human entity. No problem at all, buddy."
>>> I didn't say there was a problem --- at least, not from my point-of-view. But, as I said, the day is nigh upon us when this procedure is technically possible. IMO, less than 10 years.
"If Earnest ever takes on the attributes that make us full human entities, then he will no longer be an "Earnest." He will be a "Bob.""
>>> OK... but there would be several significant physical differences. 'Earnest's' nuclear DNA would be identical to that of his 'parent' (but not his mitochrondrial RNA, at least not in the precise circumstances that were outlined in this thought-experiment).
>>> However, 'Earnest' would not be the product of sexual reproduction... but of asexual reproduction. He would however have nuclear DNA from one parent, and mitochondrial RNA from another individual.
[Er, I don't think we 'create our own space-time', LOL!!!!]
"Never said we 'created' any such thing. I never even implied such creation. I said we express within space-time of our own."
>>> That's more than a little VAGUE. What do you mean by 'express'? In this example does that mean 'we exist'?
"As usual, you've simply created a strawman and then giddily commenced to destroy him. I weary of such leftist dishonor."
>>> Well, perhaps you should look to the imprecision of your own words first. What you said was: "...ever expressing in space-time of their own."
>>> It is not at all unreasonable --- from YOUR words --- to draw the conclusion that perhaps you were trying to say something like 'people 'own' space-time around them'... or that they 'create space-time'... or some such. Otherwise, what does "space-time of their own mean"?
>>> Don't waste your time looking for 'leftist plots' (Ha! I'm a Libertarian and fiscal conservative...) when the vagueness of your words elicit simple questions seeking clarification. (I asked 'do you mean we create space-time of our own. because you SAID "...ever expressing in space-time of their own.
>>> It seems that if you are not saying that people 'create' space-time, then you are implying that they 'own' it?
>>> Either way, it's a curious construction.
"Hehe. You actually thought "Earnest and Bob" was a real puzzle, being fooled by one of your own heathen kerishtians. Now that is something to laugh at."
>>> <G> You jump to 'conclusions' without any supporting evidence. I never said that I was puzzled by anything in the thought-experiment....
>>> One thing I am sure of, though, is that human systems of morality will ever have to come to grips with here-to-fore unexplored possibilities that science and new technologies usher in. |