"I am trying to remind everyone of the number of lies that
we were told by the Bush administration - including by
Powell, Rumsfeld, and Cheney."
Please enlighten us to a few specific lies that each of
these people told to us. Precise quotes, proper context &
credible supporting links would be quite appreciated. Your
general allegations prove absolutely nothing. It perhaps
gives some insight into your political/ideological
predisposition, but not much else IMO.
"The problem with that is that we supported and aided
Saddam in the 1980s under Reagan."
What problem did any such support cause? How about a
little context to this allegation? When did it begin? How
much support specifically? Why was it given? For how long?
And how do the actions taken by previous administrations
make any actions by President Bush any more or less
appropriate today?
Please be specific & stick to known facts (and of course
any credible links supporting your allegations would be
quite helpful).
"I'm sure you have seen the video of a smiling Rumsfled
sitting with Saddam around 1988 - AFTER the Kurds were
gassed? We didn't care much about that then. I care both
then and now."
Around 1988? Please share that picture & any relevant
factual contextual information about that alleged meeting
in 1988, "AFTER" the Kurds were gassed.
"Do you justify the killing of thousands of Iraqis by
saying that Saddam murdered people also?"
Bush gave Saddam fair warning to comply unconditionally to
UN Resolution 1441 or face the consequences. Bush gave
Saddam 48 hours to leave Iraq to avoid conflict. Saddam
chose to refuse to comply with the UN. Saddam chose to
stay in Iraq when he could have left, knowing the
consequences of his own actions would guarantee war.
Saddam chose war. Any loss of life is ultimately Saddam's
responsibility.
Additionally, the Coalition forces made every effort to
limit civilian casualties. The numbers of civilian
casualties in this war were immensely lower than in any
previous war on this scale. That too is an irrefutable
fact. Name one war where there were ZERO civilian
casualties.
And it's not lost on me that you have not spoken out with
any forcefulness about the nearly 1 million people
slaughtered by Saddam. Saddam's murder of his people
continued right up to the war & would have continued had
the Coalition not removed Saddam.
"Does that justify illegally invading a country, and
killing it's citizens, and occupying it now?? "
What facts point to this being an "illegal" invasion?
Saddam chose not to comply with the Gulf War cease fire
agreement & 18 subsequent UN resolutions (which you & I
debated on another thread so you have been provided
irrefutable factual information on this). This was one of
the main reasons for removing Saddam. These are
irrefutable facts.
This alone was legal justification for the removal of
Saddam's regime.
There were other reasons often cited by the Bush
Administration too. Saddam's <font size=5>illegal
WMD programs<font size=3>, not just the allegations of
unaccounted for WMD's & WMD materials. Saddam's ties to &
support of known terrorist groups, plus Saddam's brutally
repressive regime that raped, tortured & slaughtered many
hundreds of thousands of his citizens.
<font size=4>Yes, all of these reasons had been cited by the Bush
Administration as justifications to remove Saddam
from power.<font size=3>
I look forward to your factual, historically accurate
reply that is fair, balanced & completely in context. |
