DR. PPS: As far as Shiva and Informix. Well, I don't like what has happened to either company. Especially, Informix. I think you might have a tougher haul with them than NOVL (again, I'm not receommending NOVL). Shiva, well, ??? dunno. They "were" a flyer at one time. I know you're looking for value/short term plays. I myself, would (am) throw $ into oh, LU, DELL, IBM, and more $ into CPQ (and perhaps INTC). I don't know how much discretionary $ you are working with, and to me anyway, the relative ROI on "smaller positions" in "more expensive" companies have worked out much better (again, for me..), than the opposite. Off the techs, you might want to look at DIAL (moving up again), and you can get in for under $20 now. Other than that, I keep saying regarding NOVL --- "tough decisions <GGG>". Regards, ...Joe |