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To: Lane3 who wrote (21251)	12/23/2003 6:42:19 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (2) of 793688

"More talk about "conflicted views." When will the lies stop?" Actually, it was a pretty good article. Burns nailed it to the wall. You are looking at the difficult aspect of the honour culture: shame and honour are a hydraulic relation. More shame -less honour. Lay shame on someone and increase your honour - increase his shame and decrease his honour. Hatfields and McCoys. Insult can be repaired by receiving material gift or killing the offender. Our anglo-saxon ancestors were almost exactly like that. They eventually solved the problem in a relatively short time by offloading the honour-shame work to magistrates and courts. It can be done in Iraq because it has the grand advantage of doing away with blood feuds which are a huge burden on families and tribes. In Baghdad and many of the larger cities and towns there are already operating coourts to which folk are taking their cases against members of the former regime rather than seeking out private justice. I'm amazed at how few revenge killings there have been given the size of Hussein's repessive apparatus. The guy Burns was talking with was giving a message. Spoke loud enough to be heard at adjoining tables. The hard men said they'd appreciate talking with Burns. Work was being done by everybody. Interesting story.

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