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To: unclewest who wrote (22549)1/2/2004 3:02:34 PM
From: Little Joe  Read Replies (2) of 793677
 
"Vouchers alone will not do it. Why are private schools successful is the compelling question. Which of the things they do differently that contribute to their success can be transferred to the public school systems is an approach that should be looked at closely."

I don't know if vouchers alone will do it, but I am confident the system can't be reformed, just some reasons:

1. Court decisions that have overruled the old law that the school stood "in loco parentis" and given children "rights" have made it impossible for the teacher and principal to discipline children and to make rules. Today if a child is to be suspended or expelled he or she gets a hearing and all of the legal nonsense that goes along with it.

2. Stupid laws such as mainstreaming disabled children, who are not capable of learning and who will never benefit from education, but who are disruptive to class rooms.

3. Inability of public schools to expel disruptve students making it impossible for anyone to learn.

4. Teacher's unions that don't care about kids.

and the list goes on.

The one characteristic of the above is that you can't require accountability while at the same time taking control from the schools.

An example of the kind of nonsense that is going on at the Community College Level, where I have experience as a part time instructor is the current notion that no matter what the student's ability is coming into the course somehow I must teach the student in a way that the student will learn. Unfortunately, many of the students accepted cannot read or write and do not have a level of comprehension of a high school graduate. They literally do not understand any but the most basic of words. Many cannot write a coherent sentence and do not understand the questions on the exam. Compound this with the fact that many miss half or more of their classes.

Is it reasonable to make a teacher "accountable" to teach law courses to such students? I cannot set the standards for entrance. I cannot fail students even if they miss most of their classes because to fail a student is the fault of the instructor. I just stopped teaching. It was impossible.

Little joe
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