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Politics : The Castle

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To: The Philosopher who wrote (2394)1/9/2004 3:06:13 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) of 7936
 
You understand that the settlements are built on land promised to the Palestinians.

Actually, I don't understand that. Promised by whom, under what conditions?


Initially by the Brits and then the UN.

And even if such a promise were at some point made, there is certainly an argument to be made that the perpetuation of violence and the clear involvement of the Arafat government, to which presumably such a promise would have been made, would change the situation.

The land was promised in part to the Palestinians long before Arafat was a twinkle in his mother's eye. This is back in the 1920s.

If you promise land for peace, and get only violence, not peace, then the promise seems voided.

The violence began back in the 30s and 40s when Israeli terrorists went after the Palestinians and the two groups fought with each other. At that time, the Palestinians were sort of in the top dog position and the Zionists/soon to be Israelis were the underdog. Most of the Zionist terrorism was directed at the Brits. Do a google on the King David Hotel......you will see one of a number of terrorists acts perpetrated by Zionist terrorists.

The Zionists became such a problem that the Brits reversed their earlier decision of granting the Zionists their own state in Palestine which was a part of the British manefesto. However, the Brits could not convince the US of the wisdom of that move and the Zionists were able to get the UN to rule in their favor after WW II.

It seems you are siding with King George as opposed to the American colonists.

I'm siding with the rights of women and children not to be blown up indiscriminately. If the settlers were invading the Palestinian camps with suicide bombs I would condemn that. But they aren't.


Three times as many Palestinians including women and children have died than Israelis. And the settlers ARE attacking the Palestinians. That has been going on for a number of years. The settlers tend to be very aggressive and dangerous.

I don't recall that the American colonists had a policy of sending young men and women off to blow up places where the families of British gathered. If they had, I would certainly have been on the side of any authority which tried to stop such bombings.

How about their Indian buddies taking scalps?

I'm disappointed that you apparently believe that these acts are somehow equatable with the acts of our colonists in tossing tea in the ocean, and the acts of an army fighting against paid soldiers in a declared war. I, frankly, do not see them as even remotely the same thing.

That's too bad because they are very similar. Its too bad you have idealized the early colonists. They were very rarely very civilized and often very aggressive when it came to their well being and freedom.

In any case, both groups are fighting for their freedom from an unwielding jailer. The Israelis have kept the Palestinians in refugee camps for over 50 years. A. Sharon, the current PM of Israel, was tried by an Israeli tribunal and found guilty in the slaughter of thousands of Palestinians in Lebanon. He is also responsible for many of the settlements in the West Bank and Gaza.

And much like the American colonists, the Palestinians will do much of anything to gain their freedom.
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