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To: abstract who wrote (60465)1/10/2004 9:35:17 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) of 65232
 
'I challenge you to show me where I previously mentioned any one of the three questions I asked you in post 60451:"

Talk about duplicity. You've managed to change the focus
away from what you have failed to do throughout this
discussion, into falsely alleging something I never did.

I never addressed those questions in the post under
dispute. That is a fact.

My reply was to a specific statement you made in an
earlier post, # 60446 (that's where this all stems from).

I took issue with your statement, "I thought Iraq had WMD
as well and think most of the world thought so too. It
just would be a whole lot better if there was more proof."

I stated, "Recycling more discredited partisan sound
bites...... Before you revisit any other discredited
partisan sound bite, please revisit........"

Message 19674383

That's why I said in reply to post 60451, I said, "As
for any ongoing discussion, you need to respond to my
requests first."
You have yet to do so.

That's why I also said, "You have had it your way from
the start. It's become a circular debate. You are long on
opinion, short on facts & credible supporting evidence.
You are long on sweeping generalizations & short on
specifics..... You, in turn, refuse to reply to my
challenges. Now you wish to recycle through the same BS I
have already discredited. Ain't going to happen."


You were moving this discussion ahead with those questions
while ignoring my specific requests once again. Ignoring
my specific requests time & time again allowed you to
maintain an unfair advantage throughout our whole
discussion. Well, it allows you to give the appearance
that you are scoring points without ever having to retract
them or admitting you were wrong about anything.

And you misrepresented what I actually said, twisted it
around & subverted it into a false assertion while
simultaneously avoiding what I actually requested of you.

I'll give you credit though. You skirted the real issues &
deceptively made a clever attempt to make me look bad at
the same time. It may fool the unsuspecting, but not me.

Now, where did I mention those three questions in my reply
to you? The answer is nowhere at all. I never made such a
claim. That's a fact.

In fact, I did not ask you for "specific questions" as you
falsely alleged. I asked you to back up your previously
made sweeping generalities, lacking any specifics or
factually accurate responses with credible support. You
have yet to accomplish that once.

Please read my unedited words closely. I did not mention
those other questions. I factually & accurately said you
were recycling discredited partisan sound bites. I then
provided you with links to our discussion that established
this point had been more than adequately refuted already.

I never challenged the other comments because I was so
aghast at your WMD comment. It had already been so
thoroughly covered. I had no intention of allowing you to
avoid my requests once again & continue that same pattern
going forward.

All irrefutable facts.

My reply was appropriate. This is symptomatic of many of
the debates I have with folks like you. Change the subject
when facts & reality clearly refute your POV. Continue
making baseless assertions, sweeping generalizations &
offering vague opinions. Avoid backing them up with
factual, credible support. Even after issues are
thoroughly refuted, recycle them back into the discussion
again as though it was a new point with merit.

And that's precisely what you did.

BTW, those three questions also fall into the sound bite
category. They lack specific credible evidence or
background in order to frame the discussion. Same BS, same
tactics, some already discussed, some not.

You are wrong on several counts.

I look forward to your apology.
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