I guess my comment (sorry) in brackets did not tip you off to the fact that I was jibbing you somewhat Allan.
However in your anger it is plain what you do with much of what I have pointed out as being true about the use of the word "all" in many of those verses. It appears you simply shrugged it off to suit your own pet doctrines (sorry again) :-)
I do not in fact make "all" mean all when ever I want to suit verses to my evil concept of God
I do believe Allan that one of the hardest things to accept is the fact that God ordains men to condemnation. It was not easy for me.
Do you also deny that God ordains temporal suffering?
Let me 'prode you' a little more for your own sake.
1. What "condemnation" do those who had crept into the early church recieve that Jude speaks about in this verse:
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Is their condemnation merely being idiots on earth?
2. What was it that Paul taught use to not be deceived about in this verse and why is it an on going warning:
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Do you honestly think that is just a temporal enjoyment of some temporary earthly kingdom they will miss out on?
Brian |