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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: Berry Picker who wrote (36357)1/12/2004 12:47:09 AM
From: alan w  Read Replies (1) of 39621
 
You are wrong Brian.

You are simply justifying your belief that God hates most of humanity.

Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the
righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto
justification of life.


You are taking the verse completely out of context.

It is saying ...

"just as all races fell in Adam - so shall all that believe be saved regardless of race" not that all men will be eventually saved.


Just the fact that you think you have to explain this verse to me should make it obvious that something is wrong. I can read. It is saying that "as by the offense of one (adam) came to all men unto condemnation, so as by the righteousness of one (Christ)came upon that same "all men" unto justification of life. You earlier would have me to be sure and keep the meanings the same especially in the same sentence. You must twist the scripture to fit your twisted doctrine. Which is, by the way, a man made doctrine from the 4th or 5th century. Eternal torment was instituted by the church of Rome to control the masses.

You are adding to the word of God. You are inserting the phrase "so shall all that believe be saved". That is not what the verse says Brian and I think you know that. But, as you have accused Sidney and others here of doing, you also must pervert plain scripture to fit your beliefs.

It's about salvation coming to the gentiles - it was written to Jews who lived in Rome - study acts -
He went to the Jews First when he landed and then to the gentiles.


Exactly. This certainly does nothing to deny the salvation of all.

Even Jesus said that He was sent to the house of Israel.

Yes. He also said that if He were raised from out of the ground, He would draw all unto Him.

Bottom line Brian. I told you that you make the word "all" suit your own belief system. And you have done nothing but prove me right ever since. You don't even go by your own rules. According to you, the same word in the same sentence can have a different meaning. But you admonish me to do the opposite.

That is manipulation of scripture.

alan w
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