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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (123216)1/14/2004 5:24:25 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
'trying to make outrageous claims' .... well, these come from all sides, don't they, maybe first we could come to general agreement on that -g- .... yesterday there was a line to the effect that 'people of your ilk are just sorry Saddam lost', it's hard to see how this was helpful

This week there ended in BC a hearing on an event in which a cop shot dead a motorist who seemed to be reaching for a plastic toy gun ..... the guy had his hands up following clear warning, then started to reach for something, cop put three rounds into him .... then his partner reached in, plucked out the gun, it hit the pavement and the shooter on hearing the sound of it hitting thought oh my god it's a toy .... the partner could see from his point of view that the motorist was reaching for the glovebox not the gun, but he also could see how the shooter could think it was the gun, of which the handle was visible and looked real

So parallels could be drawn from that, for those interested .... Hussein will have done some deceiving both ways - both in initially hiding weapons from Blix et al, then later in leaving a lingering suspicion that he had them, lest it erode his power .... he may also have been deceived by his underlings, who couldn't admit failure for fear it would endanger their health

In any case there was an intelligence failure that wasn't entirely partisan in cause, though it may have become that with the 'pipeline' creaming off bits found appropriate by the admin ..... but i think Bilow had the best point on this way back, that the only genuine WMDs are noocular weapons, the bio/chem stuff won't do near the same damage

All this misses the central problem, which is, Who will decide matters so vital as the sovereignty of nations, a few men in a single national capital or some reasonable quorum of the Rest of Us? ... but carranza is tired of hearing that, and i'm tired of typing it with only Mq listening, so hey who cares, sieg heil der PNACentury [but not really]
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