Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "Carl... do yourself a favor and stop trying to claim that Ritter is a credible source."
At this time, with the complete absence of WMDs in Iraq, Ritter is one of the few sources with any credibility left out there. He's changed his views on the subject, but unlike most analysts, as far as the existence of WMDs in Iraq, he was right on. The people now claiming that Ritter shouldn't be believed had fantastical notions that Iraq was chock-full of WMDs just waiting to be found. You, for example, were clearly full of crap on the subject. So why should anyone take your opinion on the subject over Ritter's? Do you want me to quote you to you at length? Some of what you wrote is, in retrospect, rather hilarious.
Re: "Hmmm... so should the US support the UN (or even remain a member) given it's history of lies?"
This is in response to my statement: "This isn't about supporting Baathism. It's about supporting the USA. You can't support America with lies."
You address my statement by throwing in a red herring. The question of whether or not the US can be supported by a policy of deliberate lies has nothing to do with the UN at all. Instead, like the kid who has been found with his hand in the cookie jar, you try to change the subject to some other sinner.
The simple fact is that the US is a nation based on the recognition of truth, not the fabrication of lies. Our power comes from our truth, not our lies, mistakes or our military.
That our military is strong is only due to our insistence on truth in military affairs. The same applies to our world-wide influence in diplomacy and in business.
It is in the protection of truth, not the subjugation of truth, or the subjugation of the people of Iraq, that our nation is strong.
Vietnam did not strengthen the United States. It weakened us just as Iraq is weakening us now.
-- Carl |
