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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (123992)	1/30/2004 4:20:28 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) of 281500

The Old Left had a devil of a time coming to grips with fascism the first go-round - well, I mean the last time, since I am still flirting with the idea that Jacksonianism was a form of fascism. Ask Marcos, I think he might agree that Manifest Destiny was virulent nationalism if you happened to be Hispanic or Native American. But then I'd have a hard time drawing the line to omit Cromwell. At any rate, the Old Left didn't exist during Manifest Destiny, much less Cromwell, at least I don't remember them. And we were talking about the failure of the Left to comprehend fascism. How do you draw the line between fascism and imperialism? The Old Left wanted to talk about ownership of the means of production, because, after all, what else mattered? And if you focus solely on ownership of the means of production, it's almost impossible to distinguish fascism from democracy, for that matter. I do like the way the author discusses the joint Hard Left and Muslim obsession with Jews and Israelis. Nicely expressed.

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