I see.
No Ted you don't see.
its the law of the jungle
To an extent in international relations it is. To an even greater extent in war it is. To an even greater extent in the tacticts of the Palestinians it is.
and the laws of men are irrelevant
No not irrelevant.
Anarchy is preferable to order.
I never said anything like that. I wasn't passsing any kind of judgement on the situation other then that it was unsual. I didn't say it was good or bad, preferable or not.
I didn't advcate for "the law of the jungle", or say that "the laws of man are irrelevant", and I dind't even hint that "anarchy is preferable to order". Either your not readin what I post, or your reading it without paying attention to it, or you are deliberatly distorting my statements.
Whether you understand it or not, you are saying that because Israel has the power to overrule the UN mandate, they can do it.
"Might makes right" has little to do with the UN. Certainly the UN does not make right or wrong.
In my book, that's not right but by exercising that power, she made it right. That's what the phrase "might makes right" means.
Doing something doesn't make it right. Exercising power doesn't make the exercise right. By your definition of the term every wrong action would be right because whoever commited the wrong action obviously had the power to do it. The power to do something is entirely divorsed from the morality of the action. I can think of any number of evil things that I could do but having that power, or actually comiting the evil act would not make it right. I cana also think of good things that I might like to do but don't have the power to do. Lacking the power and failing to do these things doesn't make them bad.
The RIGHT thing is to give back the land but you don't think Israel should; hence, by exercising her might, Israel has made it right [by your standards] to control the land that she was not entitled to have under the UN mandate.
If the right thing to do is to give back the land then presumably not doing so would be wrong whatever power Israel has or doesn't have.
You say "by my standards" but you aren't applying my standards but rather your own. You say "the right thing to do is to give back the land". And from earlier posts the land you want Israel to give back is all the land that wasn't set aside for Israel in the original partision. you think anything short of that is the wrong thing to do. I don't think not offering up that much land is wrong or immoral. By my standards Israel not offering up that much land is not wrong just because it is not wrong, not because Israel is powerful compared to the Palestinians.
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