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To: zonder who wrote (7013)2/18/2004 8:38:00 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) of 20773
 
I realize you don't consider people fighting with and for Al Qaeda to be terrorists. I do, though. And I'm glad they have been detained and think it is proper.

What on earth is "interrogation of the Geneva Convention"? Meant to say interpretation, was typing in a hurry.

It is the bending over backwards to justify freeing terrorists and prevent our learning anything from them that causes me think you have an animus against America.

Because you have problems separating plain statement of fact from opinion.

And I think you have a problem telling your own opinion from facts.

I have stated no opinion but only pasted articles of the Geneva Convention.

You do state opinions, of course. But as I just said, you have a problem telling your opinion from facts.

Others picked up a rifle when they saw American soldiers coming towards them.

They just happened to be in a warzone in a foreign country (to them) and had a rifle handy and picked it up when they saw an American soldier approaching. (BTW this is a particuarly stupid thing to do.) Your attitude here is a good example of bending over backwards to find a reason to condemn American actions.

Others were SOLD to US forces in a BOUNTY HUNT and had nothing to do with no fight.
I think this means they were captured by Northern Alliance forces.

t is apparent you regard as a terrorist only those individuals we catch in the act of committing a terrorist act.
Or belonging to a terrorist cell. Or planning a terrorist attack.


Thanks for confirming my understanding of your position.

Fortunately for the world, you can't speak for your country.
No American politician can afford to take a position on Al Qaeda substantially different from what I've stated. And I'm sure the vast majority of the American public would agree with the things I've said regarding Al Qaeda.

Do you think it was OK to hold three boys aged 13-15 in a military prison for two years, to then go and say "Oops, you are not terrorists, go back home and play now."???

Since they were captured in the company of armed men, yes I do think it was OK. I do wish it hadn't taken so long to determine their innonence but government institutions including the military have never been known for efficiency. As you can see, they were treated humanely during the period of their detention. As I would expect.

Boy praises Guantanamo jailers

By Andrew North
BBC, eastern Afghanistan
An Afghan boy has told the BBC he feels no bitterness about being held in the US Guantanamo camp for terror suspects.
More than a year after being captured by US troops fighting members of the Taleban and al-Qaeda, Naqibullah, 13, is back home in eastern Afghanistan.
Naqibullah wants compensation to pay for a medical education. He spent much of his time in captivity in Camp Iguana, the children's section of the US detention centre on the tropical island of Cuba.
The teenager said he felt fine and was happy to tell his story.
He had never even been to Kabul, let alone outside Afghanistan, before he was taken prisoner by the Americans.
"I hadn't done anything, but they suspected me because I was standing next to some men who had guns," he said.
"I told them I was innocent. I don't even know how to use a gun."
'Guest treatment'
Unlike most of those in Guantanamo Bay, he was not forced to wear an orange boiler suit, or shackled and hooded.
He behaves better with his sisters and brothers, he shows me more respect
Mohammed Gul,
Naqibullah's father
Inside Guantanamo In fact, apart from the two other boys released with him, he says he saw no other detainees.
He even says he was treated like a guest of the US forces.
"We were not like prisoners there. We were not tortured. They didn't tie our hands. And they gave us education," he said.
There is no bitterness or anger, but the boy learned enough English to make this one demand of the Americans: "I want the Americans to pay me because I was not a criminal. I want them to help me become a doctor."
Life changed
After more than a year in US custody, Naqibullah is now trying to adjust to life back home in his village.
It is hard to exaggerate just what a strange and unsettling experience this has been for him, but this is perhaps not the Guantanamo Bay story you might expect.
At the mosque, Naqibullah's father, Gul Mohammed, leads prayers. His attitude shows the very different culture and mindset here.
Naqibullah may face difficulties adjusting back to village lifeYou might think he would be angry with the Americans. Actually he thinks they have done Naqibullah a favour.
"He has learnt to speak English. He has come back with an education. He knows about things," Gul Mohammed said.
"He behaves better with his sisters and brothers, he shows me more respect, and he has been to big places like Kabul, and the rest of the world."
But it could be difficult for Naqibullah now. As I leave his village, he says: "I want to go to the city."


news.bbc.co.uk
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