'When someone willfully lies, that does not discredit them'
  .. doesn't at all follow from what i said ..
  'but calling them out does discredit one?'
  Depends on the quality of thought presented in calling them out, yes i think it can, but shouldn't, and doesn't in an intelligent debate
  Just trying to be helpful here, Tom [although now not sure how or why!, lol] .... but figure it out - rants and polemic screeds are preached to the converted, always, nobody else listens ... questions are decided in a democracy by the swing voters, the chronic undecided, who will be put off by extremism of any sort .... unparliamentary language leads directly to the Bush Thread Phenomenon, half a million posts of uselessness  .... nobody cares about stuff like that, it's boring, there is better out there ... for example - #reply-19821878
  As for Gus, he posts on Evile's thread, as do you, that Israel Iran Syria one  .... didn't mean to suggest he was LindyBill's buddy too, but i guess ya never know what lurks down in them swamps, lol .... often the 'KKKer' epithet gets thrown around where inappropriate, but guess who David Dukkke supported in an election once down in Looosiana?  ... yup, a certain Emile Vidrine, whose platform included the line 'too many blacks in city hall' or something like that  .... it takes all kinds, they say, but some of these kinds i wish they'd take elsewhere |