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Strategies & Market Trends : Aardvark Adventures
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To: ~digs who wrote (33)2/22/2004 8:55:39 PM
From: ~digs  Read Replies (1) of 7944
 
unedited chat log re Trader Vic's 123 reversal method

[19:35] <Invest> oh btw, dave
[19:35] > yeah?
[19:36] <Invest> your earlier post regarding ^vix, what do you think
[19:36] <Invest> market ripe for temporary downturn?
[19:36] > when you opened it up .. did it have the trendline?
[19:36] > conditions are ripe for major swing
[19:36] <Invest> I saw a blue line down
[19:36] > rare levels of complacency
[19:36] > yeah okay
[19:37] > but so far no signal has been generated
[19:37] > (re downswing)
[19:37] <Invest> could you explain what you saw in that chart, if you have a few minutes?
[19:37] > basic downtrend
[19:37] > here
[19:37] <Invest> the red line at 20 was peculiar to me
[19:37] > i'll explain a somewhat complex trading pattern
[19:37] <Invest> ok
[19:37] > that i rely on bigtime
[19:38] > it's called a 123 reversal
[19:38] > we've talked about it b4
[19:38] <Invest> yes
[19:38] > you have elder?
[19:38] <Invest> not the book nope
[19:38] <Invest> but I know 123 I think
[19:38] > shit okay
[19:38] > pretty simple once you get the visualization of it
[19:38] > lets use the Vix for illustration
[19:38] <Invest> alright
[19:38] > so you've got your obvious downtrend
[19:39] <Invest> yep
[19:39] > when the vix prices crosses that downtrend to the upside we have a preliminary breakout
[19:39] > it can go far at first w/out pulling back
[19:39] <Invest> right
[19:39] > or it can go just a lil and then comes back to RETEST the line from the OPPOSING side
[19:39] > sometimes it doesn't even get back to the line
[19:40] <Invest> correct
[19:40] > (that would mean new lows for the vix prolly)
[19:40] > sometimes it'll just double bottom
[19:40] > or maybe even not even get that far before reversing back up
[19:40] > so you have the prelim break.. that's step one.. = caution
[19:40] > then you have that retest which is step 2
[19:41] > the further from the line that it gets ... the more strong the signal
[19:41] <Invest> ahh ok good to know
[19:41] > if it crosses back below the downtrend line again then the breakout is negated
[19:41] <Invest> correct a strong drop signal
[19:41] > step 3 is pretty simple
[19:41] > step 3 would be a higher high after the retest in the case of VIX
[19:41] > what you then have is confirmation
[19:42] > and the makings of a new uptrend
[19:42] > so its all conditional and there's no emotion to it
[19:42] > should leave little room for interpretation.. which is good
[19:42] > basically idea is to position after step two
[19:42] > when it reverses back up
[19:42] > want to watch volume as an indication also
[19:43] > rising volume on the uptick gives legitmacy
[19:43] <Invest> yeah
[19:43] <Invest> I see a downward wedge and depending on the direction
[19:43] > allong w/ falling volume on the downward part of the retest
[19:43] <Invest> and I see a lot of consolidation at the bottom
[19:43] > yteah
[19:43] <Invest> I see at least a 15pt move in either direction
[19:43] > and that consolidation gives rise to magnitude of impromptu move
[19:44] <Invest> exactly
[19:44] <Invest> I know ^vix is at an all time low but
[19:44] <Invest> it could still go lower
[19:44] > so then basically you take starter positions after completion of step two
[19:44] > and that might mean selling vuneralbe longs in the case of 123 vix reversal
[19:44] > aka tech
[19:45] <Invest> yeah
[19:45] <Invest> dow
[19:45] > and then once you get confirmation
[19:45] > the higher high
[19:45] > then you take your larger positions/sell remaining longs
[19:45] > and do not flip flop again until the same process has worked itself out in an inverse fashion
[19:46] > (same 123 ordeal applies to broken uptrends)
[19:46] > anyway this process is integral to my trading
[19:46] > and it works in all time frames
[19:46] <Invest> hmm I think you maybe right
[19:46] > all the way down to daytrading w/ 1 or 5 min charts
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