AS Re...It's 1968. You're a courageous young man sent to Nam and you're in command. You're sent up the Mekong leading a boat with two 60 mm machineguns. Your orders make no sense. The VC keep ambushing you and killing your guys. You finally decide, F this. I'm going to go on the offensive and wipe those VC out. The orders don't make any sense anyway because every time you win a victory you come back the next day and the VC are back in the same place. So no more pussy-footing around. Every time we see VC suspects you now go gung-ho, charge and take them out. You start winning, you start pacifying things, you save your mens' lives by being more aggressive. But after six months of that, many friends killed, dozens of VC (some of them just kids blown apart) and three wounds you realize this is madness, this whole thing makes no sense, it's time to go home.
That is an apt description of what Kerry said. So, exactly why did Kerry become this deranged killer of women and children, and then blame everyone else for his breakdown. Our other war heroes, Sgt York and Audie Murphy, didn't have to degrade themselves to ruthless killers of civilians to win their medals. Why did Kerry? He didn't. He chose to do it, just like his higher ups chose to give him that option. More importantly, would you want a person who reacts like that under pressure, in the white house, with his hand on the button. You haven't answered my question posed to you on the last post? It is easy for us all to blame everybody else for one's actions. No matter what his commands were, Kerry knew it was the wrong thing to do, so why did he do them? Kerry himself bares some part of the blame, for what he became. Just where do I see any part of that in his testimony. And if Kerry were elected president, just who will he blame then, if he reacts the same way under pressure. I have no intention of taking the blame, by voting for a guy, who I know, reacts badly under pressure. Will you?
So on your way home you realize, you cannot let more of our guys go through that, get killed for no apparent plan or reason
That I can buy, and that unfortunately is the first honorable part there is to the Kerry saga. Kerry could have gotten out of Nam, just like Gw. There are pictures of Kerry sailing on a boat, with John Kennedy. Instead Kerry enlisted to help with his friend's war, and become a hero, just as his friend John had become on Pt 109. Except he enlisted in the wrong war, fought against the wrong enemy, being fought with poor planning ,and the wrong reasons. And then after he became what he wanted to become, a war hero, like the hero he adored; like his friend John Kennedy became on his PT boat, he blamed the military, for what he had become.
This whole war is based on lies and piss poor callous planning from above. Ths whole war is a scam and the soldiers are the ones paying the price. The price to win is to go mad and become homicidal. (Rambo was insane after all) Because you cannot tell friend from foe.
You started this post, by asking me to use my brain and think. Now, how about you doing the same? Do you really want a guy who did all of those things, in the white house, with his hand on the button? Because this time more than a few women and children, will get wiped out, if he reacts the same way under pressure, as he did in Nam.
You have a chest full of medals, but what do they mean? They are for killing people, many people. They aren't badges of honor so much as badges given to you for doing some very questionable things following very questionable orders or for just saving your guys.
Sad but true. And if Kerry really believed that, he would have thrown his medals over that fence, not someone elses. Now Kerry proudly hangs his medals in his office, and his commercials talk about how honorable he was ,to win those medals, when his real honor came, when he tried to stop other people from going through what he did. Kerry's commercials should center on his anti war protests; as that according to you and me, was the first time he woke up, and supposedly did the right thing. Even that he couldn't do the right thing. He fully admits, he did many of the same things Calley did. He fully admits the medals were won the wrong way, for the wrong reasons, yet when crunch time came, he couldn't bring himself to completely disavow himself of the objects, he said he had come to detest. Why not. Because he had devoted his whole life, up until 2 yrs earlier, to acquiring the medals, and becoming the hero John had become. You just can't throw your whole life's worth of dreams over the fence, and walk away. He should have, but he couldn't. That is why Kerry isn't talking about his anti war protest days. He can't. They were a lie, just like the war was.
You realize it was all based on a way-out theory by chickenhawks in think tanks.
The cold war theory, actually worked. The simple fact is that Ho wasn't an ardent communist at all. Ho actually admired America, and asked the US for assistance, to help get rid of French colonialism. Eisenhower, I believe, turned him down, and sided with the French, and Ho, as a result, turned to Moscow, and Peking for assistance, to get rid of French colonialism. Because Ho, initially was trained in the Soviet Union, in guerilla tactics, and later recieved assistance from communist countries, the US wrongly assumed Ho, also was an ardent communist.
God bless the troops and the vets
Absolutely. And regardless of whether Kerry voted for or against the war, he should have, voted for the 87 billion to support the troops in Iraq, and help get the country rebuilt after the war so our troop could get out of Iraq with honor. Instead the dems felt GW lied to them to start the war, and then tried to play politics with the money necessary for the troops, and the rebuilding of Iraq.
Up to John Kerry because he had amazing courage in combat
Just how does that statement square with this one. You have a chest full of medals, but what do they mean? They are for killing people, many people. They aren't badges of honor so much as badges given to you for doing some very questionable things following very questionable orders or for just saving your guys They don't. Amazing courage, would have been if Kerry didn't do a bunch of questionable acts, to perform his courageous acts. More importantly, will Kerry again do questionable acts, to show his courage, once he is in the White House.
also amazing courage to try and change things when he got home. And he did. He saved a lot more lives protesting the war than he did in combat.
Absolutely true. Much of his anti war protesting was courageous, and honorable. Its too bad, he went overboard, and started accusing every soldier in the war, or reacting the same way he did. While it is true, some did, a lot didn't, and for him to tar and feather them all with the same brush; just as he fired on everbody, in the free fire zones, whether they deserved it or not; Kerry managed to also bungle his most heroic act so badly, that now, the Dems. are back to talking about how wonderful he was in Nam, not in the protests afterward. |
