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To: TimF who wrote (2968)	3/5/2004 1:42:55 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) of 7936

So you think the US will become an imperial monarchy when the oil starts running low?? Don't be so literal... That's exactly what the source you quoted was talking about - "It was the end of the Roman Republic and the disappearance of representative government on earth for almost 1,700 years, until the English Civil Wars in the 1600s. That is the reality we are confronting today—offering up our democracy in propitiation to an Empire for Oil." I fail to see how my response is over literal. If "the reality we are confronting today" is "offering up our democracy" then the only way I was over literal if you meant that we will have a dictatorship rather then a monarchy. Are you saying that we are going to give up our democracy? That's a possibility. You just said that solar, wind and hydro are "marginal energy producers". Those are the only active alternatives that we have right now. Are you hoping someone will pull a rabbit out of their hat? Coal will last longer then oil also there is nuclear fission, geothermal, oil shale and tar sands used on a small scale now and expanding their use would not be pulling a rabbit out a hat. At an increase of demand of 2% per year, we have enough coal to last for another 149 years. Oil shale already is figured into our total oil reserves and is being 'mined' in several locations in the US. Nuclear fission is pretty much out because we are running out of uranium and plutonium and there is no safe way to dispose of the radioactive waste. Geothermal is on such a small scale its not worth mentioning. "Pushign the move away from oil now will cause the same economic dislocation, and pushing it by government regulations will probably cause more disruption then letting it happens in response to market forces." That's BS. I see. The idea that markets can adjust to changing conditions more efficiently with less disruption then making command and control government decisions would involve is BS that isn't even worth talking about any more. I didn't realize you where so leftist. Now you know. Yeah, right.........after a huge econ. dislocation requiring the huge intervention of gov't. The economic dislocation was partially caused by government action and was probably lengthened by it. The dislocation was caused by a lack of gov't regulation. Until the 30s, the sky was the limit. You should read up on it. Its a very telling episode in our history. The stock market crash is one of the most glaring examples of why a pure free market economy if not regulated can lead to disaster. Capitalism is an imperfect creation. It necessitates gov't intervention to insure stability. ted

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