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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: Neocon who wrote (550214)3/10/2004 12:07:05 PM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (2) of 769667
 
What can be said is that the existence of stockpiled WMDs has not been verified.

Exactly...no weapons found. Dr. Kay has said that Bush should come clean and admit that there are no WMD.

As for the WMDs, even Kay thinks that the threat of restarting the dormant programs was reason enough to overthrow Saddam

You mean WMDPs. The President and the Vice President made no mention of programs. They told us that Saddam had WMD. And that they knew where they were.

It is not true that there is no winning a guerilla war. We helped to beat a guerilla insurgency in Greece at the end of World War II, for example. We pacified guerilla fighters in El Salvador, and brought them to the table.

You're going to compare these small countries to Iraq? We don't have enough troops to control the borders of Iraq. We don't even have enough troops to partol the known weapons dumps, were insurgents steal bombs every day. In Greece and El Salvador we surrounded and choked off the supplies. We can't do that in Iraq with thousands of miles of pourous borders, unless we more than doubled the current deployment.

The ties to Al Qaida are substantiated, the only problem is that we have no idea of the extent of their cooperation.

What a lie. We know full well that the ties to Al Qaeda were minimal. Almost non existant. We know that Saddam and bin Laden distrusted each other.

We are faced with an impossible situation in Iraq, and this was the situation before the terrorists of every stripe have streamed in, in the name of jihad. Insurgents have been coming to Iraq from Syria and Iran...and many other countries. Even without the terrorists you have three groups that hate each other, and will probably end up in a Civil war over control of the country and or their regions.

We could have made much progress by working within the country to move towards democracy. Now we have demonized democracy and made a mockery of it. So much more could have been accomplished by leading with the carrot, rather than beating with the stick.

This war in Iraq, was a diversion to the legitimate war we have with Al Qaeda. We had the right to go to Afghanistan to get bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda's main operation was in Afghanistan, with strong holds in Iran and Pakistan. Yet we attack Iraq, where Al Qaeda was all but non-existant.

The war in Iraq will continue. We will need a presence there for the next 10 to 20 years. I'm not so sure that this was our best strategy, in fact there is hardly even a plan. This administration makes it up as they go.

Orca
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