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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry

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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (7808)3/16/2004 7:07:24 PM
From: Original Mad Dog of 81568
 
Oh yes, I was intent on spreading information about "Canadian immigration law" alright. Are you trying to imply that CANADA has an H1-B program, which was the thrust of my post?

When you are making an argument and citing as a "fact" that Canada is stricter about immigration than the U.S., I think that shows you are intent on spreading information about that subject. And it might help people make informed decisions about what you are saying if they know that in fact, Canada has welcomed immigrants for years based on a showing that they can contribute to Canada's economy, not only by "having a million dollars" as you wrote, but by having skills and education and experience. That is the essence of Canada's pro-immigrant point system.

Are you trying to imply that CANADA has an H1-B program, which was the thrust of my post?

An H1-B program (the thrust of your post, you claim, though your post didn't explicitly mention that program) is a program that allows highly skilled people usually with high levels of education and job training who can contribute to the U.S. economy by supplying it with skills that are found to be in short supply. Canada's entire immigration point system is based on those concepts. So Canada in actuality takes the concepts underlying H1-B and applies them to the entire immigration system.

So if the "thrust" of your post was that the U.S. is misguided in having an H1-B program which Canada doesn't have, that's utter nonsense, and in my opinion is a product of your own personal animus and bias toward people of Asian origin. When you exhibit that animus, I will be there to challenge it, because I find such bigotry to be repulsive.

We both know the real problem you all have with me is the fact that I have been correct regarding the off-base supply side republican economists and their ludicrous predictions made last year.

I'm not sure what you're referring to here. I do think that the prediction that 2.6 million jobs would be created this year was off base. I respectfully disagree with you about trade issues, and that's fine. I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the government figures regarding GDP and unemployment completely distort the actual picture of the economy based upon your subjective observations. Reasonable minds (and unreasonable ones) can differ about those points and debate them.

But where I step in to challenge you is when you make stuff up, as you did about U.S. immigration policy compared to that of other countries such as Canada. If you've ever spent time in Vancouver, which I have on several occasions, you'd know that it is a very heavily Asian-immigrant influenced city, with those from China and India most prominently represented. And many of the jobs and economic vibrancy of Vancouver and British Columbia have been brought about by the dynamism and knowledge resources that came to Canada as a result of its immigration policy. I have studied Canadian immigration quite a bit, and I think their system is one of the best in the world, sensible, nondiscriminatory, and designed to further the interests of Canadian society in having a dynamic and growing population and economy.

Since this is a John Kerry thread, does anyone know or have a link to Kerry's position on immigration issues?
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