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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (554472)3/21/2004 11:09:37 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) of 769667
 
Your revisionist story is a bunch of trumped up BS.... The facts are that Bush received intel with caveats that should have cautioned against going to war...

There is not a shred of BS in my post, Shep. You simply had no way of refuting it and this mindless crap was just the best you could do. Bush was very clear that in view of 911, it made little sense to simply ignore the mad Iraqi's pointed refusal to uphold his obligation to disarm. You don't just ignore such obligations simply because of some caveats that applied to other issues. The fact is, as Bush mentioned in his address to the U.N., Saddam had agreed to disarm and purposefully and repeatedly failed to follow through. Bush declared that Saddam could easily have avoided the conflict, but Saddam continued to lie. By the time Bush put ships in the Persian Gulf, it was just too late for Saddam to do anything but suffer and run to his little cubbyhole. The bluff had been called.

but as is now being shown with latest tell all book, he was going in no matter what.

hehe. You are so friggin' gullible it ain' even funny. I am embarrassed for you.

911 was his excuse and he linked that and WMD almost 24/7. And he said Saddam had WMD, not plans for WMD.....

Well Saddam certainly did have WMD. That was never the issue. The issue concerned whether he still had them. No one knew, but Bush needed to know for certain that Saddam had disarmed. Until having that information, Iraq was a threat. Now, because of Bush, Iraq is no longer a threat.

No, Bush himself never used the word imminent publicly, but Rummy did and so did McClellan...

Well, you claimed Bush said it. Leftists are such friggin' liars.

the rest of the Bushies used terms like mushroom clouds, a immediate threat, gathering threat, etc etc....

In view of 911 and the fact that we know for certain Saddam had WMD and refused to allow us to confirm disarmament, he was indeed a threat, every bit as much a threat as if he had walked up to us with his finger in his jacket pocket pointing at us and commanding we put our hands up. You don't just trust that such people are just playing around. You take their heads clean off. Bush, not you leftists, did exactly the right thing to protect his country. Were it up to you and the Massachusetts Frenchman, we likely would have taken another massive hit by now.

Stop hiding behind silly semantics.

And you stop hiding behind silly lies.

You and the rest of us were lied to and lots of people died because of those lies...

I certainly was not lied to. I knew all along that no one really knew what was in Iraq and that the issue was all along about getting in and making sure what was in Iraq. You were "lied" to because you wanted to be lied to so that you could lie about being lied to.

Bush made a mistake, he knows it, everyone knows it ...

Well, Bush never claimed the things you claim about him. So if anyone has made a mistake, it clearly is you. Unlike you, Bush now controls Iraq, Bush has captured Saddam, actually captured him. Because of Bush, and not you or any other leftist, we now know of a certainty that Iraq is no threat because we are in Iraq; and because of Bush, not because of you or any other leftist, we have captured scores of muslim terrorists and prevented America's taking another hit. I am looking very hard for a mistake in all this and conclude there is not one to be found.

why doesn't he simply admit it and move on with the mess in Iraq.

Because, unlike leftists, Bush is no chronic liar and will not admit what is not true.

And why doesn't he concentrate on OBL and Al-Qaida..

You have no evidence that he is not concentrating on OBL and Al-Qaida. Just because he hasn't dialed you up and said "Hey, Shep. I just wanted you to know I'm concentrating on OBL and Al-Qaida" doesn't mean he is not concentrating on them. I have news for you Shep. There is a distinct possibility that you ain't worth squat to Bush or to anyone else for that matter. Bush may well be concentrating on OBL. In fact, the administration actually reported recently that it was intensifying its efforts in precisely this area.

And why won't he cooperate with the investigating committee's? Something to hide?

Because the secret Democrat memo instructing Democrat committee operatives how to politicize the investigation proved that the committees were unworthy of anyone's consideration. Leftists are liars, and Bush knows it.

And btw, be sure to watch Richard Clarke on "60 minutes" tonight..

Don't have a TV, haven't watched 60 minutes for at least a decade, will never watch it again. Clarke obviously sees money here and is selling a book and his soul to get it. If what he claims is true, and had he any integrity at all, he would have come forth during the Iraq debate. I have no respect for the guy. But, of course your being a leftist, you think the guy is a paragon of virtue and credibility.
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