Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "Please amplify on this."
<<<For other than total war, it is US business that tames rogue nations, not our military. Sure our military tamed Germany and Japan (okay, we got some help with Germany), but they did it by killing on the order of 5% of the population. Translated into Iraq, that would be such a bloody occupation that the American public would never stand for it.>>>
A valid comparison, a war with 30 or 40 mm casuaties
compared with one of 500.
>>Take the town of Fallujah, with 500,000 people. Bringing them to heel would require killing about 25,000 people. Today the US military put out a press release that they've managed to kill a grand total of:
Marines killed at least one Iraqi ...
cnn.com
With the way our military operates, the probability that we will pacify Fallujah is exactly zero. No more than the Israelis, can we pacify Arabs. Just not going to happen>>>
Who needs pacifiers?, we just plan to plain disarm them.
<<<Your point of view is to see the US military as the only "solution" to the "problem" of "terrorism". You got our boys sent into a conflict that the US public wouldn't support because you thought that it was the "only" thing we could do. But you're ignoring the fact that we have alternative ways of winning hearts and minds.>>>
Poll show Public support for war still alive here, dont count your chickens yet
<<Think more carefully about how it came to be that the students in Iran are generally friendly (or were before Bush attacked their neighbor). You will eventually realize that it is stuff like popular music, American food, and our movies that converted them.>>>
Yes, dont act so stupid, Hawk.
<<It wasn't Reagan who disemboweled the USSR, it was Nixon. And Nixon did it with weapons like Pepsi.>>>
I kind of liked Reagan, Nixon was an a$$hole, even if he did like Pepsi.
<<<Re: "Which Iraqis? The Sunnis, the Shiites, the Kurds? All have their own agenda ..."
It doesn't matter. We have no real strategic interests in Iraq other than (a) its oil, and (b) its government's inclination to promote terror, and (c) its people's inclination to join terror groups>>>
All them Arabs look alike to me too.
But you are absolutely blind to our principal interests in the region which extend much farther than Iraq.
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