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Politics : Should God be replaced?
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To: TigerPaw who wrote (17001)4/6/2004 3:26:05 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) of 28931
 
"To propose an effect without a cause, that is a miracle without mechanism,..."

I agree that all effects must have a cause even though it is a tautology. That is one reason that I know that universe did not just pop into existence out of nothing with no fist cause. So why in your opinion, can't the cause come from outside of the universe; and would not the effect, caused from outside, appear to be without a mechanism from our standpoint? If the universe itself is one large effect which has an external cause, then what's the problem with the same thing happening on a smaller scale? In other words, a miracle.

"...violates the necessary conditions for our universe to have a history."

I don't think an effect that has a cause which is external to the physical universe violates history at all. In fact it becomes part of that history.

"Without a past, the present is meaningless, which is more or less the definition of nihilism."

I think your premise is unfounded so I disagree with the conclusion of Nihilism.
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