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Politics : Should God be replaced?
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To: TigerPaw who wrote (17001)4/8/2004 5:14:20 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) of 28931
 
"If there is anything fundamental to our universe it is cause and effect"

And for anyone to posit a material "effect" without acknowledging a material cause is to spout nonsense. A cause and its effect must be related by some action--not by no action. And action is a material phenomenon.

No natural event is a miracle as imagined by fundamentalists. And no effects occur which are not the consequence of an event. Of course, one could simply assert that ALL effects in their entirety are caused by God but that is simply begging the question and inventing a belief out of thin air.

Rational people understand that natural laws are never violated. Our knowledge of laws is, of course, incomplete. But reality will always be what it is and not what it ain't. All logic and all ability to exist must begin with this fundamental law of identity: that A is A and that A is dependent on other than itself. All phenomena have certain requirements.
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