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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (566560)4/18/2004 10:14:38 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
According to the CIA's factbook, 3% of Egypt's land is arable. Egypt is mostly desert.

The issue here is security, Egypt is a lot bigger than Israel, with far fewer enemies surrounding her relative to Israel. Supporting Israel to a greater extent makes sense, especially since Israel is more civilized.


Egypt has a serious problem........a regional superpower sits on her doorstep.

Which half? The half you don't want to hear, or the half you never learned in school?

The half you have stated here with no proof, no evidence, but that is given simply to try and justify what is just not true. You are claiming European culture was barbaric while Islamic culture was not. That is just dumb when the Greeks had well-establish civilization long before Mohammed was even a maggot in the nest.


Dumb? I told you to do your homework. The Greeks were well before the Islamic empire. We're talking AD, not BC.

BTW, o wise one, the Byzantine empire was based in the city of Byzantium which eventually became Istanbul, the former capital of Turkey which is a Muslim nation.

Well that it eventually became a muslim nation is certainly not relevant here, my ignorant friend.


Eventually? Turkey has been Muslim since around 1200 AD.

What you must prove is exactly what you have declared, that Europeans were little more than savages while a superior Islamic civilization flourished. Your mistake here is that you are trying to declare this alleged early European savagery by referring to the much later Turkish conquest of Byzantium. Byzantine culture was quite developed long before the muslim horde conquered it. Islam didn’t even begin its Byzantine conquest until A.D. 633. You speak pure ignorance. acs.ohio-state.edu;

All I said is that Byzantium was the forerunner to Istanbul which was the capital of Turkey, a Muslim nation.

The Islamic Empire still existed while Europe was in the ascendant. The Islamic Empire did not begin to fall apart until the 19th century during the time of the Byzantines. By WW I, it had mostly fallen apart.

Mere existence of the Islamic Empire is simply not the issue. Cultural development is. It is not to be doubted at all that once Europe overcame its Dark Age, it retook the reigns of world leadership, which is why you now speak here in English and not in savage Arabic.


Both Islam and Europe contributed significantly to the development of the human race. However, in the 19th century, the Ottomans became corrupt and arrogant and lazy. They were shocked to find Europe had advanced ahead of them. No surprise there........empires ascend, and then they descend. Europe today is no longer the leader it was at the turn of the 20th century. Two wars did them in.

Do you think the Iraqi war will do us in?

Most Europeans were murderous savages right up until WW II when Hitler outdid himself and murdered 6 million Jews.

Most Europeans were not murderous. This is just stupid. Hitler was actually stopped by Europeans and people of European extraction. You really are being dishonest here.


I see.......he did not murder 6 million people. What.......you make this stuff up as you go along?

And this country, America, has more murders per year than some Muslim nations.

And virtually none of these murders are being religiously justified by any group, except the murders of Islam. That is really the issue here.


Do you think it matters to the dead whether they were killed over religion or not? You suggested that Muslims exclusively are murderous and barbaric. I am suggesting that they may not be alone in their murderous habits.

It seems to me you really don't know what you're talking about.

It seems this way to you because you wish to defend savages instead of admitting the truth.


I am not defending them......I'm just not willing to buy into your biases.

That's true......[Jewish extremists] are mostly in Israel. Of course, the Muslims cover a third of the world.......that might explain why they murder around the world.

hehe. What you have just done here is support my point. You have claimed that because there are so many muslims, there are so many religiously inspired murders. Undoubtedly this is true. The savage religion behind these murders needs to be destroyed or altered.


Islam, the religion is not savage just as Christianity is not savage. Some Muslims are savage and use their religion to justify their behavior. In the same way, Christians did during the crusades and the inquisition in Spain. BTW who do you think were the victims in the Spanish Inquisition?
Check it out:

es.rice.edu

bibletopics.com

"In summary, the Inquisition in Spain began in 1478 and officially ended in 1808. During that time, <font color=red>323,362 people were burned and 17,659 were burned in effigy. <font color=black>It is one of the darkest periods in Spanish history. By far, the greatest number of cases tried were for Judaising (Roth, 1964). These were also the cases that were tried the most severely. There were other minorities, of course, that were persecuted, but the majority were Jews. The Inquisition definitely had racial overtones. Although, it can be said that Queen Isabella officially initiated the Spanish Inquisition for the purity of faith, nation, and people, this is probably not the case. The materialistic desires of the aristocracy certainly factor into the reasons for the perpetuation of the Inquisition."

dimensional.com

"0n the right is a Dutch engraving fo a bout 1590, one in a series of 53 showing the massacre of the Protestant citizens of Antwerp by Spanish Catholics on November 5, 1576."



There are even more Christians than muslims in the world and never in the history of Christianity has there been the sort of worldwide terrorism we are seeing in Islam. Even the few relatively minor episodes of Christian savagery were ended, in every single case, by Christians themselves. That ought to tell you something about Islam.

We are in the middle of Islamic terrorism. Who's to say how it will end or who will end it?

You need to read up on what exactly Israel is doing. The Israelis are not the innocents you're trying to portray. In fact, they are anything but ignorant. What they do have is a great marketing program and an incredible lobby in Washington.

They had better maintain both their marketing and lobby because they are surrounded on all sides by devils who wish to destroy them. There is just no excuse for the muslims to purposefully murder innocent people.


Okay. Now you've lost me.......are you another T. Delay who can see Satan whenever he looks around?

Look.......before you post with me again, you'd better do your homework. I've done mine

You are, of course, reading defective books, obviously the produce of third-world Islam. You have, amongst other juvenile attempts, both referred to later Islamic history to show how early Europeans were allegedly “pissing in their pants” and you have actually declared here that “most Europeans” were murderers up to WWII, using Hitler when in fact Europeans stopped Hitler. It is now quite well established that you haven’t a clue about the history, but are simply attempting to elevate savages to justify their incessant desire to murder innocent human beings.


Oh, grow up......and read a book!

I win the exchange – as usual.

In your dreams........
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