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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (130538)4/30/2004 12:42:15 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Is this as factual as the baby incubator lie told by the daughter of the Kuwait ambassador and then given credibility by beig repeated in the media

One case of disingenuity, and suddenly you're going to claim that Iraqi soldiers were involved in human rights abuses and general pillaging in Kuwait?

All one as to do is look at the pillaged civilian vehicles which we destroyed on the "road of death" as the Iraqis retreated toward Basra.

And while in the process of deliberate denial about Iraqi brutality towards one another, and towards others, why don't you "refresh your recollection" by reading about some of these mass grave sites that Archeologists for Human Rights discovered, and it will also deal with the 600 missing Kuwaitis who they believe were found in a mass grave near Samawa:

afhr.org

Here's a few photos for your peruse.. And while you're doing so, be mindful of all of those joyful Iraqi women who apparently are crying tears of joy that there relatives received such personal honors as being personally introduced to Allah by Saddam and his cronies..:

Warning.. Graphic images:

I don't think a person becomes a suicide bomber for pay. So that issue is too stupid to discuss. The kill themselves out of despair and to lash out at the people who are destroying their dignity.

Why do you find that so strange? Every year there are literally hundreds of cases of fraud wherein people commit suicide, or make their deaths look like a murder, so that their families will collect the life insurance..

$25,000 is a mighty large sum of money for the average Palestinian. It would equate to around 10 years wages for the average Palestinian (those that aren't already unemployed)...

No job, guarantee that their wives and children would be cared for at least 10 years.. And if the parents have too many kids, they can "spare one" for a suicide bombing and take care of the other kids..

And why worry? After all, they will be taken into Allah's bosom, which is where they all wish to end up anyway...

The kill themselves out of despair and to lash out at the people who are destroying their dignity.

What about all of the other societies that have existed which have endured FAR WORSE humiliation and degradation? (where do I start?).. Did they make a habit of advocating suicide bombers targeting unarmed individuals as something to encouraged?

Are they expanding their settlements into occupied territories and expelling other people out of their homes?

Now quite buying the "expelling" part, since most of the Jewish settlements have been built on uninhabited land...

But I can bring to attention the condition of christians who once made up 95% of Bethlehem's population.. It is now 80+% muslim, because the Christians have all been persecuted by the Islamists and fled..

And by the way, these Christians are Palestinians too!!!

middleeast-crisis.org

zionsake-holyland.tripod.com

So if you think Palestinians, as a whole, are being brutalized by Israel, I wonder why you haven't displayed one ounce of sympathy for the Palestinian Christians who incur THE REPRESSION TWICE OVER, first from Israel and then the ultimate humilitation from their own people!!

That's the problem with you Sarmaz.. Your perception is not only myopic, but your so politically near-sided that you're nearly intellectually blind.

I guess you think Israeli expansion is a good thing that should be financed by the US. And I don't.

Actually, I don't.. I've recently been engaged in some furious debate over the recent decision by Sharon to hold to certain settlments that balkanize the PA..

And I think Bush made a major mistake by trying to legitimize it as "the reality on the ground".

Hawk
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