>> One case of disingenuity, and suddenly you're going to claim that Iraqi soldiers were involved in human rights abuses and general pillaging in Kuwait?
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I thought you were going to make that claim. I have never said anything about that in a post to you or any one else.
I only said that the daughter of the Kuwait ambassador made a deliberate lie to inflame US public opinion by saying in interviews that she eye-witnessed Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators and shipping the incubators to Baghdad. President Bush in 1990 made a speech in which he repeated her claim. After it was discovered that she had not been in Kuwait for the previous 2 yeas, it was also discovered that she fabricated the whole story. Much as people near and dear to you seem to fabricate many things.
After the story was discovered to be a lie, several US senators said that story influenced them to vote for the resolution to wage war against Iraq in 1991.
That is the full expansion of what I said. Which word of it do you want to dispute ?
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>>All one as to do is look at the pillaged civilian vehicles which we destroyed on the "road of death" as the Iraqis retreated toward Basra.
And US helicopters killed un-armed civilians as they retreated. I didn't expect you to bring that us as one of the more glorious episodes of US military history. I've read that US helicopter pilots were so disgusted by the orders to kill the retreating civilians, some of them were refusing to fire. So their officers relayed to them the news that a missle hit in a barracks killing US soldiers. And basically inflaming the appetite to kill the fleeing civilians.
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>> And while in the process of deliberate denial about Iraqi brutality towards one another, and towards others, why don't you "refresh your recollection" by reading about some of these mass grave sites that Archeologists for Human Rights discovered, and it will also deal with the 600 missing Kuwaitis who they believe were found in a mass grave near Samawa:
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When did I do that ? If you find a post of mine that engaged in "process of deliberate denial about Iraqi brutality towards one another, and towards others," I will publicly apologize to all here. But thanks for the info on samawa. I'll look it up. But it is just strange thet it has not come up in the news.
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>> Why do you find that so strange? Every year there are literally hundreds of cases of fraud wherein people commit suicide, or make their deaths look like a murder, so that their families will collect the life insurance..
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I think that might happen with older people who lose their job and are overwhelmed with a sense of guilt over supporting their families. Especially if they are in poor health. But I don't think 18-year olds do that.
>> And if the parents have too many kids, they can "spare one" for a suicide bombing and take care of the other kids..
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That is disgusting of you to write that. The kids are usually impressionable teen-agers, and they have a sense of despair. And from what I've read, they volunteer secretly, without family's knowledge. The criminals are the people who indoctrinate them for their mission.
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>> Are they expanding their settlements into occupied territories and expelling other people out of their homes?
Now quite buying the "expelling" part, since most of the Jewish settlements have been built on uninhabited land...
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You are deluding yourself. Special roads are built for them that take palestinian land, etc.... The settlements usurp the precious water from palestinians. As crowded as Palestine is, there is no vacant land. As well-read as you are, you should not fall for the benign Israeli line. But then you fell for the wmd, didn't you ?
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>> But I can bring to attention the condition of christians who once made up 95% of Bethlehem's population.. It is now 80+% muslim, because the Christians have all been persecuted by the Islamists and fled..
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Why don't you ? Most Christians have more of an opportunity to migrate to the west (because of family ties, refugee organizations, ...) So they can leave. Besides Christians, except fake ones in religious right in the US, are not usually fanatically nationalistic in the middle east, as Muslims are. The unit of society in christianity is the family. So they are willing to leave if the opportunity comes.
You will also find that the religious orders who have stayed, complain most loudly about their treatment by Israel. Not about their relations to the moslem neighbors.
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>> So if you think Palestinians, as a whole, are being brutalized by Israel, I wonder why you haven't displayed one ounce of sympathy for the Palestinian Christians who incur THE REPRESSION TWICE OVER, first from Israel and then the ultimate humilitation from their own people!!
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I am not aware that Palestinian Christians are humiliated by their own people. I believe Hanan Ashrawi is Christian. I also believe that Yasser Arafat's wife is Christian. So maybe that is something else you are, ahem..., let's say, differently informed about than me.
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>> That's the problem with you Sarmaz.. Your perception is not only myopic, but your so politically near-sided that you're nearly intellectually blind.
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