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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (131175)	5/3/2004 3:50:58 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Was it 4 million or 6 million and how were they counted? Actually, it was 11 million if you count everybody, Jews and non-Jews. And how were they counted? by the Germans, very exactly. The German railroads issued 11 million one-way tickets. May I recommend Lucy Dawidowicz' The War Against the Jews? I don't think there were millions of Jewish deaths by 1941. They really only got revved up by 1943 The Final outlines of the "Final Solution" date from 1941, but they were building ghettoes and camps long before that, and you seem to have forgotten about the Einsatzgruppen, the SS who were running around Poland and Russia shooting Jews and burying them in pits, that were at work from 1939 on. I'm not sure of the absolute totals by 1941 (I don't know if anyone is), but I'm sure it was over a million by then, esp. if you count starvation in the ghettoes as a cause. This was about the time the Germans decided that the Einsatzgruppen weren't going to do the trick, they needed to scale up in a scientific manner.

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