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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (131181)	5/3/2004 5:02:04 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (4) of 281500

< you seem to have forgotten about the Einsatzgruppen, the SS who were running around Poland and Russia shooting Jews and burying them in pits, that were at work from 1939 on. I'm not sure of the absolute totals by 1941 (I don't know if anyone is), but I'm sure it was over a million by then, esp. if you count starvation in the ghettoes as a cause.> Not so fast there Nadine. CB was meaning just those in the concentration camps and actually murdered, up close and personal, not by starvation. My point was that people all too often get into arm-waving, hyperbole, exaggeration and outright lies. Like the baby incubator stealing Iraqis and the missing WMDs. Things are bad enough without making things up too. There was nothing much done in 1939. It was only in 1940 that things were on a full-scale war footing with no holds barred and full-on carnage. Until then, there was some pussy-footing around, Munich peace in our time and stuff while plans were developed and the wherewithal to carry out the plans. Meanwhile, I wonder how long people will stay in the concentration camps at Guantanamo Bay, in Afghanistan and Iraq [and Kuwait and wherever else prisoners are held]. Will they get human rights? Trial? Where to next? We are certainly not at the end of history. I won't mention the NUN. Mqurice

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