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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Neocon who wrote (131420)5/5/2004 2:41:54 AM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Neocon, I said:

"The salesman tells you that he "knows" the car "doesn't burn oil."

He's lying if he knows that the car does burn oil.

He's also lying if he doesn't know whether the car is burning oil. The existence of the lie doesn't depend on whether the car burns oil or not, it rests on the representation that he "knows" when, in fact, he knows he DOESN'T know."

You said:

"I see. You define as a lie what is not one."

Can you explain your conclusion?

Are you seriously disagreeing with the example I gave? Do you think that a man's representation that he "knows" something, when he knows he DOESN'T know it, is NOT a lie?

If you have some logic or some definition of "lies" that would counter that example, I'd like to hear it. Or were you looking ahead and not liking where that logic led?
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