Good Lord, man, can you remember the original point I was making? Or are you so in love with the sound of your own typing that you're losing focus?
I remember the point perfectly. But unlike you I am cutting to the chase and getting underneath your argument to destroy it at its foundation.
The original point is that there are those who hijack religion for their own earthly evils.
Here is the fact you, in typical leftist imbecility, overlook: in making your claim here, your overarching point was to equate the evils of Christian history with those of islam. While the Christian evils were many, in no case were they like islam's, murdering unattached innocents, without any substantive internal challenge at all, to accomplish some temporal purpose. That is a very significant point that you are avoiding like the plague.
I've pointed to a number of instances were it has happened with Christianity: Crusades through the Yugoslavian conflicts. You seem to say that none of these were "justified by Christianity".
You nauseate me with your indescribable ignorance. No honest person reading these exchanges can legitimately come away with the belief that this is all I am saying. The point is not merely that they are not justified by Christianity, which is true, since other Christian forces significantly stood against them all (indeed even during Urban's assault there were enemies of the this pope who wished to have nothing to do with any of it and who were excommunicated and attacked for it), but the point also is that in none of it was there Christian justifications for murdering unattached innocent people. We find islamic justification for murder all the time. Just recently we found it and there is no islamic redefining outcry against it.
In fact, they all were. How else do you think the slaughterers justified their evil doings? In the name of the Lord.
Once again, The Serbian conflicts were not directly justified by Christianity. While Christianity surely had significant historical influences on the region's sectarianism, Serb forces and their leaders in no wise appealed to Christianity to justify their assaults, unlike how muslims appeal directly to the Koran to justify murder. Moreover, in no wise did Serbs determine to murder innocent unattached Jordanians or Iranians or Egyptians, or Libyans, etc., simply because they tacitly supported the Bosnian muslims. There was no murder of this sort and it surely was not justified by Christianity in the way muslims murders of unattached innocents are constantly being justified and identified by islam. Since this is happening in islam and with no substantive challenge to it, no reasoned person can authoritatively claim that islam is being hijacked. You are not an islamic pope, sir.
You claim that these evils are all in response to prior evils by Muslims. Good gravy, can't you see that that is exactly what the OTHER side also claims?!
Well of course. You are proving my point, a point I have made here repeatedly. Because the two sides take their religiously inspired views there is no one in ultimate authority to declare the other person's view is wrong. So when you throw up all of this crap about "hijacking" religion, you are speaking directly out of your leftist ass.
You think that bin Laden just believes that Christians should be destroyed for being Christians? Like Bush's "they hate us because we're free" bullshit?
Nope.
Exactly HOW naive (or dishonest) are you?
Not in the least, certainly not nearly as naive and dishonest as you.
They claim that their murder is in response to prior offenses, by Israel, the US, and other prior colonial powers. They claim they are only defending themselves from OUR "vile race".
The problem is, I am a moral agent, capable of making decisions for myself. And yet I was not given an opportunity to apply my identity to these circumstances. I was not in their land, not privy to their condition, never had a chance to become privy to them, never had a chance to decide, to negotiate with them, never had a chance at all; and yet they tried to take off my head and are still trying.
I was unattached, innocent of all wrongdoing and yet they are trying to murder me. No other religion but islam is doing this. No other religion but islam has ever done this without challenge. Only islam is doing this and there is no substantive islamic force counter-balancing it such that it can sufficiently define islam as "good." Your word about the alleged "goodness" of islam is meaningless.
They claim that the Lord smiles on them, because they are in a just cause. Just as Christians in prior wars have.
The comparison is juvenile, not nearly as intellectually nuanced as it should be in order to reflect reality. I do not agree with the evils committed by so-called Christians. I do not defend them. But they are a whole heap a lot more logical than those being committed by islam. And when they have been illogical, they were boisterously challenged by other Christians. That is just not the case with islam - and you know it. You clearly just hate Christianity, the faith of your own fathers, such that you are willing to lie against it. Well, no honest person will accept this lie.
I'm not sure if you're playing with me with your half baked arguments, or if you're a can't-see-the-trees sort of guy.
I see the trees, the leaves, the veins in the leaves, the cells that comprise the leaves and the parts that comprise the cells. As a result, I see that where Christianity and islam are concerned, we are dealing with two radically different plants, the Christian Oak and the islamic poison ivy that actually tried to murder me. You merely see two superficially similar trees and now live in confusion.
Either way, it's time to wake up and smell the latte. Your self delusion will get you (and me) killed.
Islam has been murdering innocent unattached peoples since its inception. It is still murdering them. It was murdering them before I was even born. He is self-deluded who thinks that I am causing these murders and not the muslim savages. Blame Bush, blame me, blame conservatives, blame Christians, blame Jews, blame anyone for the murders except the muslims who actually caused them. This is leftist logic. |
