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To: tejek who wrote (13748)	5/25/2004 9:09:01 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) of 14610

tejek. You said...." I will never ever forgive Bush for what he's done. He has opened Pandora's box, and long after he is gone, we will pay for his hubris and mendacity. And that's not a prophesy......its our future reality."..... I think it is always good to understand where ones opponent is coming from and why they say what they say. It appears to me that your thinking is somewhat screwed up by your apparent rage against your President. Just so you know I do not belong to any political party and never have. I am non religious and favour none. I believe that President Bush did what was required to send a very straight forward message to the world of islam, in a language they can understand. You said...." anyone who knows the ME and understood the nature of Saddam knew that Bush was telling us BS.".... I'm no expert in matters of the ME but from you statement I assume that you are stating that you are so maybe I can learn some things here. You said....." Saddam has always been secular......in fact, his party, the Ba'athists, was started by a Christian in Damascus that branched out to Bagdad.".... That's interesting. A secular political party started by Christians and taken over by muslims. You said...." The gov'ts of Syria and Iraq were the two least Islamic nations in the ME. Its one of the reasons why Iran and Iraq were at such loggerheads."..... Do you think that sadam being sunni had anything to do with the hostilities with the shia controlled Iran? and if it did then this was a religious problem. Correct? You said...." And if you believe the terrorists are going after us simply out of envy then you are fooling yourself. ".... I have never said or thought that bin loden was envious of the free world. IMO. Bin hates America because they are considered infidels. Very powerful infidels that must be brought down, that must be seen by the world as submitting to islam. You said....." There are terrorists cells all over the world including the US and Europe and don't for second fool yourself that Bush has cleaned up the cells in this country."..... Gees, of course there are islam terrorists cells all over the world and that's why President Bush put together a coalition of some 90 countries working together and sharing intell. with each other to defeat these scum. You and I have no idea how many al kida crazies have been killed to date and not likely we will ever know we don't even know if binny is dead or alive. You said....." They can strike at us whenever they have sufficient funds to pull off such a heist off. The last time it took ten years in between heists......I suspect the next time it will be much sooner. Money is pouring into the terrorists thanks to the war in Iraq."..... What are you talking about...what is a " heist " supposed to be? And just how is money pouring into al kida as a result of the war in Iraq? And how would you know this kind of thing or maybe this is just something you say for effect? You said...." So what? The Muslim terrorists believe they are fighting the good fight against an evil invader. They have suffered for two hundred years under the western colonists. The US is just one more of them......a newer version with grander ideas.......but no less an imperialist. "..... So not only do you not like President Bush it appears you also do not like America. I said this to you....." Chasing islam terrorist around the world by secret agents undercover and eliminating them is good and is ongoing but for the most part is something we do not see nor does the world of islam and the terrorist in their midst."...... So this was your response to my statement...." Again, you are wrong......this is not the kind of fight to be done by a standing army."..... Say what, you tell me I am wrong while you agree with what I have said. I never said anything about a standing army. are yo a tad confused? I said this to you...." President Bush may be removed as President because of his of his policies but the message he sent to the world of islam can not be removed. It will always be remembered and this is good."..... Your reply....." No, it is bad. "...... Sounds like you are defending our enemies islam terrorists. Are you saying it is not good to tell islam terrorists that enough is enough? Do you think the free world should try and reason with them?

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