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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (134719)5/28/2004 3:10:35 PM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Hawk, listen to yourself sometimes. I said:

almost every expert has said that terrorism is not dependent upon "state sponsorship.

You answered:

Standing by for you to start listing them so I can compare them to my list of experts who have said that terrorism of the type that threatens nation/states is usually state based (false flag operations), supported, (or tolerated).

So I guess you actually AGREE with my statement that terrorism does not need a state sponsor.

If you need any further disabusement of the disconnect between the Bush implied reality and actual reality, ask yourself which state sponsored the Madrid terrorists who attacked so devastatingly a few short weeks ago.

As far as the doomsday fears that somehow terrorists will defeat the nations of the west, I can't agree. Sure we'll take our hits but we won't collapse in total fear and fall to our knees and beg for mercy. Hopefully we'll get smarter and find ways of confronting the causes of terrorism instead of staying stupid and feeding it by acting aggressively and militarily against entire regions and peoples that haven't asked for our help.

Remember that we don't disagree on the need to deal with terrorism or the fact that terrorism is a major problem, we only disagree on the methods that can successfully mitigate the problem and how to implement those methods effectively without harming principles that have guided this nation for centuries. Pointing out that the problem exists does not validate the use of blunt military force against nation states, and alleging that the problem is immediate and catastrophic doesn't justify escalating counter productive strategies.
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