If you know what ought means, and what obligation entails, then you also must know that a "suggestion" is not the same thing.
Any first year Lawyer would laugh at a prosecutor who tried to assert such total nonsense in a court.
"And yes...people generally do find that their world is nicer when they live by the rules they have set for that purpose. At least, it is much nicer for those making the rules."
Aye, there's the rub! Who gets to make the rules; the majority? Your ideas of what constitutes "the benefit (well-being) of the community (which means the individuals who compose the community)" is completely arbitrary. When the majority sets rules that take your life they are not wrong to do it but then you want to start a campaign against tyranny.
"Yes, that is the way it has always worked."
I described an amoral (from your perspective) scenario, that basically entailed "might is right". Thanks for agreeing with me.
"Only madmen are cruel enough to compete with madmen. Humanists, per se, may be truly incapable of defeating tyranny with guns."
Who knows what that means? What is tyranny? Why would they need to defeat tyranny; is tyranny objectively wrong if that tyranny is arrived at by a socially conscientious majority?
The grey shirt, blue shirt thing is a total canard. It's so full of errors that it hard to know where to start.
first you seem to grant moral equivalence to actions based on shirt color as if there were no issues involved. Talk about fashion wars! The shirts are not the issue!
War is not necessarily murder. Do you think the allies were murderers for standing up against Hitler? You probably do.
Second you purposely misrepresent my position by saying that killing is written on the hearts of men when I said the knowledge of what is right and wrong is. Then you make the mistake of equating knowing what is right, with what men actually do. Men do things all the time that they know are not right.
"You pretend that "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" is not truly an ethical precept but just a suggestion!"
No I don't. The Law of God is written in all men's hearts, that's what makes you guilty for not following it. Murdering, (the unjust taking of innocent life) is wrong no matter what shirt you wear. Idolatry is wrong precisely because men have enough knowledge about the true God to leave them without excuse.
"the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness; because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them.
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:
because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:
for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen" (Romans 1:)
"you decided to crawl into an out at first! Sliding would have been more dignified and manly!"
Only you would "slide" into first. LOL!
Pitchers got a rubber arm! |
