What john wont tell you is that the democrats have been trying to turn SS into a welfare program for both citizens and non-citizens alike which is certainly not what it was when it was started.
How about chapter and verse here, Mike. Some sort of source for these assertions.
SS is a universal pension program. Everyone gets something. Bill gets something; I get something; Mike (uw) gets something; you do or will get something, etc. It's not a welfare program. If you are thinking of Medicaid, then I would agree, as distinct from Medicare.
Implied in your comments is a serious discussion of principle and application. I'll offer you my own take and perhaps you'll do the same. If the aim of SS were simply to reduce poverty among the elderly and to improve health coverage, then income limits would be the way to go. That's a principle. And, if American politics changed so that it did not take organized self interest groups to get legislation through; legislation were simply based on right policies. Another principle. But application. Since that latter is not going to happen, and might not even be wise, SS, in my view, is best served by making it a universal program in which everyone has a stake. We are all, then, a political lobbying group to keep it in place, not simply the poor.
As for the goal of the Dems being to "fool" the middle class, last time I checked it wasn't the Dems who pushed through tax breaks which redistributed income upward out of the middle and working classes to the very wealthy. |
