"Equal protection under the law is a constitutional right, based on a presumed natural right, that deals with equal protection in matters of law or government"
That is what I was talking about: EQUAL treatment under the law.
"Lots of things are outlawed. What's your point?"
That there is a huge weight of law, tradition, and belief against those who would argue for discrimination of that sort.
"As a matter of law I am making no such claim or pretense. As a matter of natural rights it isn't a pretense."
So under the LAW, the right to free association DOES NOT trump the right to equal treatment under the law. You admit that, at least. Now why does the right to free association trump the right to equal treatment under the law in regards to natural rights?? Is equal treatment without regard to color, race,religion, or gender not a natural right?? Is the right to life, safety, property or legal rights not equally assignable to all people regardless of color, race, and such??
"Civilization has been around a lot longer then anti-discrimination laws. Such laws are not a requirement for or a necessary consequence of civilization."
I would disagree with you. I cannot call any culture civilized which supports inequality of rights and freedoms...especially not in the context of our discussion. Of course, I accept your right to consider legally sanctioned prejudice and inequality of rights and freedoms to fall under the aegis of "civilized". I don't think that UNEQUAL treatment under the law represents a civilized value...but it is only my opinion. |