OT. Hang on here. Re: Al Queda, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. I'm sure there are some very bad people involved on the "other" side, but who are the real players in this game anyway. And what to make of the Bush standdown of fighter jets on 9-11, and the very weird relations between the Bush regime (and family) and the Saudis and the Bin Laden family?
I guess what I'm saying is that there's a very "Matrix-ish" feeling to this whole thing. And I'm not entirely clear who's on what side, or the true purposes for which the War in Iraq (or Afghanistan) is being fought. And I sure as heck don't feel that mainstream media is giving the common person the information to better understand the underlying dynamics of the situation, but rather for the most part are pure organs of propaganda.
BTW, a great article from globalresearch.ca the other day:
The 9-11 Coverup Commission
globalresearch.ca
... in particular, I like the following quote, "An elephant is sitting in the 9/11 Commission hearing room ... That elephant is the truth.
And a great graphic on the "interests" of members of the 9-11 Coverup Commission.
Haim, re: your comment that Mish has an "embarrassingly" bad knowledge of history ... actually, I find his comments very appropriate, and in fact from your previous comments have come to feel that you have a very lopsided view of history ... almost a view of history from the perspective of the "victor" so to speak. In this respect, it's partially correct, but leaves out all sorts of messy details that to my mind significantly challenge the morality and justness of the world view you argue for. I don't want to be mean or dismiss your views, but just suggest that there's much to be learned from understanding the history of peoples of the developing world for instance "through their eyes", from the suffering that they have endured, and to seek to understand the correlation between this suffering, and the economic and political structures of the developed world.
My sense is that what the world objects to is the U.S. being so powerful a country as it is, and so overtly operating from the vantage point of its own national "interest" without regard or respect for the "interests" of other peoples or nations. I mean, it's not so bad for a less powerful, smaller nation to act more selfishly, because the damage to other parties is not so evident. But when a monopoly power starts to behave so anti-socially, under pretexts that much of the world considers to be extremely dubious, well it gets to be a different story.
However, I do agree, Europe's not much better. And her track records sucks just as bad as the U.S. So it's not a U.S. thing per se, but I guess just the pathetic state of our shared humanity that we seek continuously to inflict so much suffering on others, to secure our existences and retain power. And to justify this pathetic behavior through disinformation and propaganda that frames the struggle in moral terms, when it's really all about greed and power.
Disheartingly,
Glenn :( |
