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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (584907)6/23/2004 6:28:12 PM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
"The murder rates in Canada, Sweden, France, and the rest of the industrialized world are not anecdotes"

The murder rates are not anecdotes, and I did not say they were. To sight them as having some kind of meaning is anecdotal. It is meaningless. They mean zip, nada, zilch. Just a piece of data that the lefties throw out there AS IF it did mean something, which they do not. Get it?

"why not compare London or Paris to NY or L.A.?"

I think it most usefule to stick to the topic at hand. You say liberal does not matter, but the most liberal area have some of the highest murder rates. Doesn't prove anything, except maybe you comparing different countries to ours is meaningless.

"The murder rate in NY is about 5 times that of London."

So what? The murder rate in NY is 5 times a lot of cities. How does that solve their problem? Change the name of the city? When Giuliani instituted some conservative tough on crime measures it went WAY DOWN. Now that IS proof of something.

"Actually the South (you know all the red states) has the highest murder rate in the country and the North East (all those blue states) has the lowest murder rates"

Another meaningless statistic. Wonder which areas in the states have more? The cities I listed are all over the country, and they are all democratic strongholds.

I really want to discuss some of these types of more complicated topics, but it is useless with factoid statisticians like you. You have not mentioned one thing that could help the problems. Just various statistical datat that is dishonestly (imo) used to infer something that is not true.

I say that fatherless kids raising themselves with a lack of discipline and structure (conservative values) is a primary culprit. Do you disagree with this? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

A culture that says the status quo is ok should be comfortable living with the results. And it appears they are.

As an example of how bad your logic is with the statistical diahrea of listing various cities with differing murder rates, I will throw out an example that I DO NOT SUPPORT OR BELIEVE. Blacks kill themselves more than whites. With your "logic" what does that reasoning imply? They kill each other more because of the conditions they are in. Serious problem that needs serious and tough solutions. Something the liberals are not interested in.
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