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To: Neocon who wrote (137818)	6/24/2004 2:08:24 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) of 281500

I feel a burst of renewed energy in my arm. But there is also an interesting issue in the case of Germany: in a dictatorial regime, is there ever meaningful consent of the governed? After all, the populace is subject aggressive propaganda; the absense of civil liberties, including the ability of opposing views to be disseminated; and is in constant fear of the secret police. To what extent do we associate a populace drawn towards war after years under the regime with the regimes actions? It is arguable that the Germans were, in fact, liberated........ What a novel concept. If we say that in any government short of a democracy the governed never give "meaningful consent" to be governed, then we have a lot of "liberation" ahead of us. If that's the case it makes sense to liberate those people first whose nations have natural resources or strategic locations that are beneficial to our other needs. Hence the first liberation in Afghanistan where we were threatened with violence and the second in the nation with the second greatest accessible oil reserves in the world. This "liberation" thing could be a very useful in an Orwellian sense.

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