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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Neocon who wrote (137869)6/25/2004 3:47:14 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Hi Neocon; I hadn't realized that you'd brought up the canard of the "ghost dances" as an excuse for your lack of a plan at winning the war on terror. I didn't answer this at the time, but noticing cnyndwllr's comment, I should add my own.

Re: "Similarly, it is when it is apparent that all of these suicidal tactics are only buying terrorists more pain, and that Allah is not favoring them against the Great Satan, that the tide will turn. People will give up their lives for a cause, but rarely for one that seems futile. As I pointed out in a much earlier post a few weeks ago, the failure of the Ghost Dance movement, and particularly of the Ghost Shirt, which was supposed to protect native warriors from Army bullets, spelled the end of native American resistance to the forces of government. Illusions rise, but they also fall."

If we could convince the Islamic Fundamentalists to wear "Ghost Shirts" instead of "Suicide Belts" your point would make a lot more sense, LOL. But let's look at the problem from a numbers point of view. The Ghost Dance movement was a fight for control over sections of the United States. On the one side fought the side I will call the "whites" (though many of our soldiers were black or native or whatever). The population of the US at that time was around 62,000,000. On the other side was the Paiute or Sioux. The population of the Paiute was around 7 or 8 thousand. The Sioux were one of the largest tribes in the US at around 30,000. The total native population of the whole US at the time was only around 250,000.

So the example you're bringing us is one where the losers were outnumbered by about 1000 to 1.

How much do we outnumber the Islamics? Oh, what's that? They outnumber us? Then the hell are you dragging in these useless analogies for?

-- Carl

P.S. Hope is not a plan.
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