"Yes, and all of them were rich when they made their run for the WH with the notable exception of Clinton"
Exactly. Thank you for finally agreeing that anyone can make it in America.
"and that made balancing the budget seem like such a senseless goal?"
It is senseless in comparison with protecting our nation. We can afford it. We are a RICH nation.
"Just said that America could be better......lots better"
At the risk of being called lazy again, how so?
"There is positive and there is realistic......"
Realistic in the sense you are using it is just another way of saying pessimistic. Makes it so you don't feel pessimistic, but if your writings have any bearing on your real views, you are pessimistic. With a capital P.
"Well then, back up your charges that this is a great land where everyone prospers."
Show me where I said this. This conversation has been relatively entertaining, but if you are going to start being dishonest, no need to go on. People start to call me mean after I catch them lying about what I have said. In case you are being honest, and just have not really read my responses, I will clarify. It's very simple.
Everybody has the OPPORTUNITY to prosper.
And I can't really convince you this is a great place. I have told you some reasons why I think it is. Can't do much else.
"Provide a list of the people who went from rags to riches in the last 50 years"
This is silly. If it means I am lazy that I don't look up the hundreds of thousands of people who have done this, th3en I am lazy. Schwrtzeneger is one though. I know tons of people that have gotten to the making a few hundred thousand a year range (which is a decent living). Probably 25% to 50% of the sports stars have done it I bet. You are fixated with being rich for some reason and discount the hundreds of millions in the last 50 years that have lead happy and prosperous lives. Not good enough for you, I guess, but good enough for me.
"Are you trying to tell me that the right doesn't hate?"
I can only speak for myself. I don't hate anyone based on religion, race, belifes, sexual orientation, etc. I do hate those who hate. I hate those who lie in a real way (not white lies like "that dress looks pretty"). Particularly when done against someone. I hate criminals, crooks and cheats.
So I do hate quite a few people. But you need to do something that most people would feel in their heart is egregious.
"Didn't say there were WMDs in Iraq;"
They, along with the rest of the world believed it. Wasn't a lie, and not too sure they won't turn up still.
"didn't say that Saddam bought weapons grade uranium"
Nope. They said he tried. And I think there is new evidence to back it up. British intelligence still says it is true. But they did not say that he did buy some. Please present it honestly next time.
"didn't say that there were al Qaeda links with Saddam?"
There were. This is the truth. The main trouble maker over there now is Al Quida, and he has been in Iraq since before the war. There was an Al Quida training camp in Northern Iraq. The Russion President has said that there were recent ties with Saddam and Al Quida. So go ahead an believe that he was a good man, and would not have helped the terrorists. Seems like him paying the families of suicide bombers that kill innocent Israelis would be enough to tell you that he might do the same with us.
But you live in a fnatasy world where America is not very good, and no way Saddam talks to bad people. |
