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Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch

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To: denizen48 who wrote (50578)7/9/2004 3:44:12 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) of 89467
 
<font color=blue>"Truth requires some sort of evidence"
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Here's a starter kit. Perhaps these truths will help you
back toward reality based thinking. I have a whole bunch
more too. Will you actually read any of it & be objective
in evaluating it?

TWT

Saddam's WMD Have Been Found
Message 20106309

Saddam did have WMD plans says inspector
Message 20104877

Iraq Tried To Get Uranium From Niger
Message 20288954

What about that sarin gas?
Message 20293357

Iraq Survey Chief: More WMD Found
Message 20273691

Pesticides, Precursors, and Petulance Revisited
Message 20150576

The sarin shell - from the top
Message 20163976

Binary munitions undeclared
Message 20144166

From the Pentagon: Tests Confirm Sarin in Iraqi Artillery Shell
Iraq: A 'Bazaar of Weapons'
Kurds: We Have Evidence of WMD
Message 20142289

Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
Message 20136948

US official stands by Iraq weapons report
Message 19665958

Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction
Message 19669853

Iraq's WMD's
Message 19669942

Clinton believed Iraq had WMD
Message 19674178

Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief
Message 19729599

Kay says some Iraq weapons in Syria: report
Message 19729605

"It Was Never About a Smoking Gun,"
by David Kay
Message 19734282

Bill Clinton on Bush's Iraqi WMD claims:
Message 19734299
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Kay stated, "I must say I actually think Iraq -
what we learned during the inspections - made Iraq a more
dangerous place potentially than in fact we thought it was
even before the war".....<font size=3>
Message 19735063
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Kay says Iraq war was ‘prudent’<font size=3>
Message 19740663

The Fog of WMD
Message 19745203

Calling Iraq's Bluff
Message 19750170

So Where's the WMD? Anti-Bush partisans aren't listening to what David Kay is saying
Message 19750248

NEWSMAKER: DAVID KAY
Message 19757637

Transcript: David Kay on 'Fox News Sunday'
Message 19757678

Transcript: David Kay at Senate hearing
Message 19757713

Key Excerpts from David Kay's Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee
Message 19757747

Weapons of mass deception
Message 19761306

....Another element that contributed to faulty assessments was Iraqi rhetoric.
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Imagine that you were a CIA analyst in June 2000 and heard Saddam make the following statement: "If the world tells us to abandon all our weapons and keep only swords, we will do that ... if they destroy their weapons. But if they keep a rifle and then tell me that I have the right to possess only a sword, then we would say no. As long as the rifle has become a means to defend our country against anybody who may have designs against it, then we will try our best to acquire the rifle." It would be very difficult not to interpret Saddam's remarks as an announcement that he intended to reconstitute his WMD programmes.....<font size=3>
Message 19767906

Testimony of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
Message 19771164

Testimony of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
Cont'd.....
Message 19771171

Testimony of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
Cont'd.....
Message 19771175

Testimony of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
Cont'd.....
Message 19771178

CIA never called Iraq immediate threat
Message 19774023

Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774077

UAV's - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774091

the nuclear issue - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774112

biological weapons - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774132

Mobile WMD Labs - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774161

chemical weapons - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774179

estimates are not written in a vacuum - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774191

"Why haven't we found the weapons?" - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774249

We must constantly review the quality of our work - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774273

our judgments were not single-threaded - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774287

A blanket indictment of our human intelligence around the world is dead wrong - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774297

We cannot afford an environment to develop where analysts are afraid to make a call, where judgments are held back because analysts fear they will be wrong - Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774338

How long do you let... material breach, deception and
denial go on before you risk with the kind of surprise
that I could never fully and 100 percent predict?
- Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774372

none of the countries and allied services that we were
working with in the time saw this any differently
- Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774382

the Office of Special Programs
- Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774392

How do you figure out exactly what the regime is trying to
do, when they're, in fact, deceiving themselves?
- Transcript of Tenet address on WMD intelligence
Message 19774402

There was probably no way to know about the absence of Iraqi weapons
BY R. JAMES WOOLSEY
Message 19781182

BIPARTISANSHIP ON WMD
Message 19511188

Saddam sought missile factory, Iraqi files show
Message 19551934

Lies About the President's Policy in Iraq
Message 19692973

Bush critics ignore history
Message 19697279

'Bush lied' and the lying liars who perpetuate it
Message 19699632

Why the hallowed halls of learning are filled with Bush haters
Message 19697019

Subject: Iraq Revisionism
Message 19689535

The Mayflower Gasbag Disaster of 2004
Message 19697086
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President Bush said...."there is no such thing
necessarily in a dictatorial regime of ironclad absolutely
solid evidence."
Even absent such certainty, he said, the stakes were so
high that "it is essential that when we see a threat, we
deal with those threats before they become imminent.
"It's too late if they become imminent.".......<font size=3>

In Rare Talk Show Interview, Bush Defends Decision on War
Message 19784292

Saddam's Last Secret
If he didn't have anything to hide, why did he act as if he did?
Message 19788548

ABC News: Saddam, Al-Qaeda Linked Through Al-Zarqawi
Message 20172730

The collaboration of Iraq and al Qaeda
Message 20176813

More Connections
Message 20191567

it is interesting that many who criticize Bush for not
"connecting the dots" before Sept. 11 are also criticizing
those who connect the dots on Iraq-Al Qaeda ties
Message 20201301

One major newspaper gets it right: Al Qaeda, Iraq--and war
Message 20239242

To hear much of the news reporting yesterday, you'd think a national 9/11 Commission report had blown a giant hole in the Bush administra tion's rationale for toppling Saddam Hussein.
Message 20239310

WRONG AGAIN
Message 20239382

Putin: Saddam Planned Terrorism In US
Message 20239484

Clinton was right: Saddam and al Qaeda had numerous connections
Message 20244200

Iraqis, Seeking Foes of Saudis, Contacted bin Laden, File Says
Message 20273531

The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties
Message 19619772

The U.S. government's secret memo detailing cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
Message 19506425

THIS STORY MUSTN'T DIE
Message 19509006

The Saddam-Osama Memo (cont.)
A close examination of the Defense Department's latest statement
Message 19524655

Missing Links Found
Message 19534084

The evidence of an Iraq/al-Qaida connection hasn't gone away.
Prague Revisited
Message 19534201

The Iraqi Connection
Message 19540240

About That Memo . . .
Message 19544207

An Intelligent Democrat . . .
Message 19569702

Tape Shows General Clark Linking Iraq and Al Qaeda
Message 19681678
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