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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: Berry Picker who wrote (38024)7/11/2004 10:41:40 PM
From: alan w  Read Replies (1) of 39621
 
The context of His prayer there is the unity of His disciples. He goes on to say in 21 "that the world might believe that Thou dost commission me".

9 "Concerning them I am asking. Not concerning the world am I asking, but concerning those whom Thou hast given Me, for they are Thine.
10 And Mine all are Thine, and Thine Mine. And I have been glorified in them.
11 And no longer am I in the world, and they are in the world, and I to Thee am coming. Holy Father, keep them in Thy name, in which Thou hast given them to Me, that they may be one, according as We are.
12 When I was with them in the world, I kept those whom Thou hast given Me in Thy name, and I guard them, and not one of them perished, except the son of destruction, that the scripture may be fulfilled.
13 Yet now to Thee am I coming, and these things am I speaking in the world that they may be having My joy filled full in themselves.
14 "I have given them Thy word. And the world hates them, for they are not of the world, according as I am not of the world.
15 I am not asking that Thou shouldst be taking them away out of the world, but that Thou shouldst be keeping them from the wicked one.
16 Of the world they are not, according as I am not of the world.
17 Hallow them by Thy truth. Thy word is truth.
18 "According as Thou dost dispatch Me into the world, I also dispatch them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I am hallowing Myself, that they also may be hallowed by the truth.
20 Yet not concerning these only am I asking, but also concerning those who are believing in Me through their word,
21 that they may all be one, according as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be in Us, that the world should be believing that Thou dost commission Me.

I don't believe that God hates. I believe in His treatment of Jacob and Esau, he hated Esau concerning his blessing and loved Jacob concerning his blessing. If I believed that God hates, there would be nothing to live for. He did, after all, create all of us. I couldn't go on if I believed God hated some of His creation.

Jesus told us to pray even for our enemies...

I am curious - do you not believe that is God did pray
for all men to be saved and filled with the Holy Ghost
that it would not happen - cause I know it would.


He has actually willed all mankind to be saved.

1 Timothy 2:3&4 for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Savior, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.

alan
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