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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11?

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To: LPS5 who wrote (7725)8/13/2004 3:50:59 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) of 20039
 
Re: Should individuals in favor of capital punishment be executed?

That's quite a silly, if captious, question... Should individuals in favor of abortion undergo an abortion themselves? Then how would you proceed with males? [chuckle]
Should individuals in favor of gay marriage wed a gay/lesbian partner? Should people in favor of immigration immigrate themselves? and on, and on, and on....

Actually you missed the main point which was: "It has no place in civilized society."(*) Torture is indeed part of the litmus test that allows us to sort out barbaric societies/countries/regimes from civilized ones. Bear in mind that the same people --Alan Dershowitz and his ilk-- who advocate the use of torture used to vilify the Taliban and call them "barbarians" because of their enforcing the burqa on women... They brand Islam "barbaric" because of the Sharia, that is, the lapidation of adultery women, the chopping off the hands of thieves, etc.

Now, your support of torture is all right with me SO LONG AS you don't wrap yourself in the mantle of moral, ethical superiority, SO LONG AS you stop claiming the moral high ground! So, Americans supportive of torture should admit that, morally speaking, their country is on a level playing field with its alleged "barbaric foes". Hence, this is no longer a clash of the civilized west vs the barbaric east --it's merely the clash between two barbarities... It's a struggle between two arbitrary sets of worldview... It's a clash between Judeo-Protestant barbarity and Muslim/Arab barbarity. It's no longer Good vs Evil, it's one Evil vs another Evil....

Gus

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