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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (72901)	9/23/2004 3:55:32 PM
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As the saying goes, Denial ain't just a river in Egypt... I don't see a deNial. I wanted to highlight a contradiction in comments on Europe. - On the one hand many have criticized the EU for its cautious stance towards Turkey. Prior to the Iraq war there were even voices that Turkey should be invited to NAFTA - these voices became silent after Turkey refused passage to US troops. - On the other hand there are those who expect Europe to become Islamic, like Lewis whom you quoted in your post. Islam immigrant populations don't grow that quickly so that dark vision must implicitly assume an admission of Turkey and a flooding of Europe by Turkish workers. I expect Turkey to be admitted during my lifetime and I don't expect Europe to become dominantly Islamic. BTW, did you see my post from yesterday? Any comments? Europe has experienced Arab terror for decades. Ask unclewest who was in Fürstenfeldbruck. #reply-17210959 In some areas European countries are fighting terrorism more aggressively than the USA. In Berlin, for instance, an Islamic summit was banned this week. Berlin Bans Islamic Summit, Cites Terror Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:16 PM ET story.news.yahoo.com BERLIN - Berlin's local government on Monday banned a planned Islamic conference in the German capital that security officials feared would be a forum to preach support for terrorism. State Interior Ministry spokeswoman Henrike Morgenstern said the city banned the Oct. 1-3 Arab Islamic Congress in Europe after concluding the conference Web site condoned suicide attacks against Israel and the United States. ... I have seen Americans criticize similar decisions as a restriction of free speech. Regarding military capabilities have a look at For U.S. to Note, Europe Flexes Muscle in Afghanistan By Craig S. Smith The New York Times September 22, 2004 nytimes.com It's a small step but Europe has to start from a low level.

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