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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: i-node who wrote (204004)9/26/2004 12:40:16 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) of 1572508
 
This is what's wrong with liberals. They just don't understand it....You just have to get up in the morning willing to beat the crap out of these people or they'll beat the crap out of you. It is that simple.

Yeah, well the "beating the crap" out of Saddam's regime phase ended over a year ago. It was a resounding success. Well done.

The issue is part 2, the "build a free democratic society" which has been a complete failure, and is getting worse by the month. This is the "build" phase, rather than the destroy phase. This is the part that requires planning, diplomacy, massive public relations to persuade an Islamic peole with a history of being invaded that, well, they aren't being invaded!

In this part 2, which has a lot less to do with getting up in the morning and beating the crap out of people than part 1 did, George gets a D. It's hard to imagine planning for part 2 for over a year, and doing as poorly at it as the current administration has.

Why aren't the mass graves on televion 24 hours per day? Why aren't the opening of hospitals/schools/sewage plants/whatever on television 24 hours a day? Why weren't Al Jazeera and Al Aribiya completely kicked out of the country on the day the end of Major Combat Operations? Why aren't their interviews with 10-20 families that lost relatives from Saddam's oppression on Iraqi TV daily?? Why isn't their massive diplomatic pressure on the Islamic countries neighboring Iraq to do their part to stbilize the country by providing troops, pressuring their governmnet controlled media to put a good spin on the Iraqi development, etc.? Why weren't all border crossings controlled by coalition forces within a month of the invastion to prevent the influx of the so-called "outside terrorists"? Why were "Pilgrims" from Iran allowed to enter the country before it stabilized? Why isn't the explanation of how the current wave of violence is prolonging the occupation/liberation, rather than shortening it? Why aren't their massive, massive use of force against organized revolts like the one in Fallujah and the taking of the Imam Ali mosque? Why don't they advertise rewards for information about "insurgents/terrorist/rebellious locals" over and over and over?

This is one of the most massive foreign operations of our lifetime, and George's administration seems to have undertaken it with close to zero planning about how to build phase 2 of the fantasy of a liberal democracy in Iraq. Zero!! Given that, it seems to make a whole lot more sense to have waited 6 months to plan this stuff out, let the summer heat go by, let the UN think that you are giving diplomacy a greater chance, and then invaded/liberated in fall with probably a larger coalition, and hopefully greater success in the establishment of democracy.

Answer - My answer to all these questions is basically I don't think that the C student from Yale is very smart, and his record prior to 9/11 also indicates that he isn't the type that works very hard. The result is he is very good at destoying things with the world's most powerful military, and terrible at building things. So it's time for him to go.

Elroy

PS - And if the idea was just to get up in the morning and beat the crap out of some Iraqis, then the US should leave now because that part, as I said, is accomplished.
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