Hi Searle,
Re: I fully agree, but in favor of what? Someone who may be even more gung-ho than W?!
If that's an oblique reference to Kerry, I believe your concern is misplaced. There may be a will among some Democrats to increase troop levels in Iraq in order to stabilize the situation, but I got a feeling that the genocidists are all now firmly ensconced in the neo-con camp, and they have abandoned the Democrats. The only possible exception being uber-Zionists like Joe Lieberman and Tom Lantos.
As to civility, I find that people like Laz Long or longnshort(sp?) are so reprehensible, so criminally minded and so anti-American that no civility should be afforded them. They are creeps. As another has commented here on SI, reading their crap makes it easier to see how a reprehensible monster like Hitler could rise to power with a significant percentage of the vote. Seeing human nature in all its spectacular ugliness exposed on these threads is quite an eye-opener. The incivility of the Right ends up in people being cruelly and needlessly murdered by thieves like George Bush. The incivility of people like myself is only intended as a clarion call to weak-willed moderates, libertarians and centrists to come to the defense of our nation and help to remove the extremist criminal element that has stolen our national government. Yet, I see no sign that moderates "get it", as far as understanding just how dangerous the present situation really is. It IS a god-damned nightmare. Especially the indifference and the apathy being inarticulately expressed by the great bulk of the population.
As an example, last night on C-SPAN, there was a segment on focus groups. This particular group of young mothers in Wisconsin was led by Peter Hart, a Democratic Party pollster. What I found most revealing about the discussion was the utter lack of vocabulary among these young women to articulate coherent statements about foreign policy and pressing national issues like the crisis in health care. Generally this group of stay-at-home moms and middle managers seemed to be addressing the world from the perspective of immediate impacts on individual families. Thus reducing major issues like Abu Ghraib to a phantom concern in their minds. These women, collectively, couldn't express a coherent worldview. That was truly disappointing. But, I suppose I should be used to this, inasmuch as I get pretty much the same lack of understanding when I try to engage my siblings in policy discussions.
As Adolf Hitler so wisely observed, "it's very fortunate for the leaders that the people do not think."
-R. |